I think the Open Source Initiative definition is horribly dated. Right now as an open source community we don't have the tools to make sure our technology isn't used by fascists.

Coraline Ada Ehmke

  • CarlTheRedditor [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    What can be done? A fascist government isn't going to enforce any legal terms against other fascists doing fascist things.

    • protochud [comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      literally an industrial tech union. some company isn't complying? wreck their shit

          • CarlTheRedditor [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            Your gonna hit the big red delete button at the IBM software factory or what? Like, "wreck their shit" is a really vague term when you're talking about software that can be running on multiple instances on server farms with varying levels of security all over the place.

  • BumpInTheNight [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    That's the idea.

    If you build pro-freedom tools that empower users, you understand you'll empower bad users and good, but consider it a net benefit. This applies to most technology and infrastructure. Putting a gatekeeper on the tech isn't the answer.

  • protochud [comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    these nerds:

    who the fuck is scraeming "BUILD AN INDUSTRIAL UNION" at my house. show yourself, coward. i will never build an industrial union

  • mayo_cider [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Just use WTFPL, corporate lawyers hate licenses that aren't made of legal jargon so if they want to use your code, they have to copy and paste it uncredited like the rest of us.

    On a more serious note, this is unfortunately an innate problem of developing any new technologies and tools. If you create something that can be used in an unethical way, sooner or later someone will do it. Unfortunately people who want to do unethical things don't really care if they break some ethics clause in your license.

    • Galli [comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      That license grants corporations the ability to completely appropriate your software, it's just too obscure for anything of value to them to be licensed with it.

      Corporations actually do hate the GPL enough that they founded the OSI to curtail it and google has written their own compilers and kernel to abandon linux in android to avoid it.

    • CoconutOctopus [it/its]
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      4 years ago

      I myself prefer the FAFOL v0.2 or higher.

      I'm really in line with the idea of the Ethical Source movement – I really hate the way Open Source has become a way for big tech corporations to extract free labor rather than to create viable nonprofit alternatives – but I'm also in the camp that says source licenses are probably not the way to achieve that. I don't actually know a better way, though.

      • mayo_cider [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Yeah, licenses work only if you have the resources to enforce them. Global unionization is the most obvious end goal, but we should try to figure other ways to prevent this before we reach that stage. Right now I don't really know what else to do other than have some kind of ethics clause in the license hoping that it scares the corporations away and staying far away from facial recognition etc. technologies.