Anyone who accepts or supports top-down, hierarchical social relations is authoritarian.Both Liberals and Conservatives are authoritarian by this metric, since they support Capitalism.Forces Libs and Conservatives typically label “authoritarian” are usually authoritarian too.— Black Socialists in America (@BlackSocialists) April 23, 2021
Forces Libs and Conservatives typically label “authoritarian” are usually authoritarian too.
What most Liberals, Conservatives, and authoritarian “Leftists” don’t grasp is that anything truly “Left” is where direct democracy begins, and exploitation + domination ends.
Absolute drivel. Do they think direct democracy is going to do shit for them in a settler-colonial society? They'd be lucky to survive "direct democracy" here. let alone get anything from it. It has to be done the way every single anti-colonial revolution has been done before, with guns, bombs, and the power of a state.
Look past surface aesthetics and rhetoric and ask yourself these questions when evaluating whether or not political orgs and/or tendencies are authoritarian:
The key question is whether or not these hierarchies or authorities have been consented to and are recallable, or if they have been imposed.
You don't have to be involved in any given political organization. If you don't like the leaders leave and start a better one or work to change the leaders. Demanding arbitrary standards of consent [of who?] and instantaneous recall does nothing but open up an organization to attacks by wreckers or even simply the ignorant. If leaders are consented to, then are they still bad? Are they still "authoritarian"? What if they give out orders? It is still not explained why authoritarianism is bad or even what it is.
The paradigm we are currently suffering under is a paradigm of authoritarianism.
No it's capitalism and private property, why don't they address capitalism?
Whether you’re in the U.S. or China, you most likely have someone ordering you around and monitoring your every move each day.
Completely unprovoked the wild national chauvinist invokes China as a boogeyman. Soon they will bay for war in the name of liberation.
For many of us, our “teachers” were our first “bosses.”
Anything “Left” has to break from these authoritarian social relations.
There is definitely valid critiques about education as it exists serving the interest of capitalists, but come on, this reads like a whiny high school student. Education is liberating and teachers are educators. In their utopian "direct democracy" who will teach the whites that racism is bad and black people are not sub-human? Who taught them to read?
the reality/truth is that parents/guardians can tend to be the first “bosses” that we have
This is the worldview of a child upset with their parents. Ultraleft prefigurative politics remains a literal infantile disorder a century later. This is sad too because it represents something which I suppose has been going on for a long time, the co-option of radical ideas and language by petite bourgeois intellectuals, this just happens to be the black version of it. No revolution, and certainly no anti-colonial revolution, has ever succeeded without authoritarian measures. Even the pseudo-revolutions that have advanced conditions for black and brown people in the USA have required the guns of the state enforcing them.
I see this pervasive virus of petite bourgeois liberalism spreading in a lot of different places. They co-opt the language of anarchists, Marxists, and the isolated progressive movements of the late twentieth century into one big word salad, lack any revolutionary spirit, and practice no historical or materialist analysis. They think the problem is that we're not including more people in our movements (because we're too authoritarian), when in reality the American people are pacified little babies who can barely be bothered to exercise legal means of political expression and when beaten down, return to our masters with tails between our legs. If we can raise many Americans from their utterly depraved and disgusting state then maybe mass democracy will be viable, but until then these ideas are solely there to be shared and preached by PMCs who work at some non-profit tax haven or whatever. They can preach mass democracy all they want, but your average Joe and Jane want Marvel instead.
Absolute drivel. Do they think direct democracy is going to do shit for them in a settler-colonial society? They'd be lucky to survive "direct democracy" here. let alone get anything from it. It has to be done the way every single anti-colonial revolution has been done before, with guns, bombs, and the power of a state.
You don't have to be involved in any given political organization. If you don't like the leaders leave and start a better one or work to change the leaders. Demanding arbitrary standards of consent [of who?] and instantaneous recall does nothing but open up an organization to attacks by wreckers or even simply the ignorant. If leaders are consented to, then are they still bad? Are they still "authoritarian"? What if they give out orders? It is still not explained why authoritarianism is bad or even what it is.
No it's capitalism and private property, why don't they address capitalism?
Completely unprovoked the wild national chauvinist invokes China as a boogeyman. Soon they will bay for war in the name of liberation.
There is definitely valid critiques about education as it exists serving the interest of capitalists, but come on, this reads like a whiny high school student. Education is liberating and teachers are educators. In their utopian "direct democracy" who will teach the whites that racism is bad and black people are not sub-human? Who taught them to read?
This is the worldview of a child upset with their parents. Ultraleft prefigurative politics remains a literal infantile disorder a century later. This is sad too because it represents something which I suppose has been going on for a long time, the co-option of radical ideas and language by petite bourgeois intellectuals, this just happens to be the black version of it. No revolution, and certainly no anti-colonial revolution, has ever succeeded without authoritarian measures. Even the pseudo-revolutions that have advanced conditions for black and brown people in the USA have required the guns of the state enforcing them.
I see this pervasive virus of petite bourgeois liberalism spreading in a lot of different places. They co-opt the language of anarchists, Marxists, and the isolated progressive movements of the late twentieth century into one big word salad, lack any revolutionary spirit, and practice no historical or materialist analysis. They think the problem is that we're not including more people in our movements (because we're too authoritarian), when in reality the American people are pacified little babies who can barely be bothered to exercise legal means of political expression and when beaten down, return to our masters with tails between our legs. If we can raise many Americans from their utterly depraved and disgusting state then maybe mass democracy will be viable, but until then these ideas are solely there to be shared and preached by PMCs who work at some non-profit tax haven or whatever. They can preach mass democracy all they want, but your average Joe and Jane want Marvel instead.