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https://twitter.com/BellaMax12/status/1405214673046327297?s=19

The whole thread is fucked anyway. Also Clinton talking like she literally hasn't gone on record as using "prison labour" (read: slavery) in a book about herself.

  • LeninsRage [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Same people who expressed contempt toward black activists who "can't explain what 'systemic' racism means" are now whining about how "Critical Race Theory" is evil and must be banned

  • TheyLive [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I refuse to read the thread and find out who's actually being racist in this image.

    • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Something about Republicans freeing the slaves so they can't be racist or whatever. The first poster is just a lib doing GOP bad without really diving into any systemic critique, the second is claiming she's doing a white genocide by asking Republicans to acknowledge their racism.

  • Phillipkdink [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I don't live in the US - is prison labour forced (beyond normal capitalist coercion)? I always assumed it was at least mostly optional, like for if you want/need to top up your commissary.

    • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

      Most of the amendment is outlining the exception to abolition. Most states have massive private industries for prison labor. You can pay them as low as 30¢/hr all of which goes directly back to the prison in the form of rents for everything from books to songs to soap.

      • Phillipkdink [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Yeah, I know enough to know the 13th amendment didn't abolish slavery in prisons, I'm just asking if it actually happens practically. Like if you don't want to work do you have the option of not working?

        • RedCoat [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Not american so someone correct me if i'm wrong, but from videos I've watched prisons are only obliged to provide you with the minimum average male calories per day so around 2000, for some people this isn't going to cut it, especially if you want to work out, and considering how little there is to do why wouldn't you?

          Many activities are now charged as well, some prisons brought in tablets instead of having books, these cost money every day you rent them. Phone calls cost money.

          So it's not exactly forced but if you want to do anything other than sit in your bunk all day or watch the tv's you are going to need some form of income, be it prison work, family, or a prison hustle of some variety.

        • blobjim [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          I don't think there is anywhere that literally forces you to work. But I think you basically have to in many cases. In a lot of prisons, basic necessities like hygiene products cost a crazy amount of money on an extremely small "wage". In situations like that, they might use 13th amendment to argue that it is legal (because slavery is legal), but I don't know any instances of that happening.