Pretty crazy but it's gotta help to have a non demented germ afobe in the white house
Bidens on some 2002 Afghanistan bender right now
Kind of amazing watching people (on this site!) start to whitewash Trump within a year of him leaving.
After how long we spent predicting liberals would rehabilitate him when the next republican bad guy came along lol
It's not whitewashing him. The inaction by the democrats is being compared to the program bonuses and stimulus of the last year. Even if he would have done nothing without the pressure of the election coming up, it still is a fact that people were better off with those things happening.
Obviously his marginalization of LGBTQ people and immigrants was fucking horrendous. Trump wasn't good.
Trump’s COVID stimulus was one of the largest upwards transfers of wealth in US history. Biden’s was a downwards transfer. Trump also literally spread public health misinformation such as anti-masking and promoted quack cures. Biden, while often sending mixed messages, is pushing vaccine mandates and is tying covid relief federal funding in medical systems to vaccine mandates. Trump opposes this. All of the programs that ended under Biden like evictions were scheduled to end even sooner under Trump. It was literally Trump's judges who shot down Biden's eviction ban!
Saying Trump handled covid better is factually false and serves only to whitewash him. You can criticize Biden without carrying water for Trump.
My family literally got more stimulus money from the Trump admin, like that's what it looks like on the ground dude, that's what folks remember if they even remember anything at all
And why should they remember anything else? If your day to day is a struggle, any relief from that is a positive.
Even in the post you're responding to they aren't even telling us why Biden is good, it's just some obfuscated improvements that will never effect anyone.
I think there's a real issue with people instinctually defending democrats here, and in the western left in general. If you think Joe Biden is bad, then you must think Trump was good horse shit.
No, but I think for a short time I was given a bit of a reprieve which I have yet to see coming from the Biden administration. This doesn't mean Trump was good, it just means Biden is fucking abysmal.
I'm just pointing out that people were doing better with the stimulus and program bonuses. I did not see any downward transfer of wealth with Biden, so I'm not sure what that is about, but yes obviously Trump is a capitalist pig.
I don't know why you're acting like I'm a maga guy. I'm just pointing out that program bonuses and stimulus were good for people. We had them last year, we don't have them now.
Obviously, we wouldn't have them now anyways. But that's just the way it turned out.
Like you can argue it all you want, but I'm just talking about the general feeling of a person being in poverty under Biden. Last year was better than this one from that standpoint.
I understand that Trump wasn't the cause of this, and it'd be fucked anyways. But the way things lined up, it made it feel like that.
Idk. If trump had won the election he'd be doing the exact same thing Biden is doing now (nothing).
The only hope was that there would be no more infectious, deadlier variant like the delta variant that came along and that they could ask nicely to get enough people vaccinated that it wouldn't be a huge deal.
But they fucked both those things up so they have no more responses.
If Trump were president you don't have unemployment assistance, a third stimulus check, state and local aid, or the tying of federal Medicare and Medicaid funding to vaccine mandates. Eviction ban ends sooner too, and student loans probably come back next month. You also don't have a near-airtight federal workforce vaccine mandate. Like all choices between the blue team and red team, they both suck but they're not the same.
Delta variant happens regardless of who won any US elections, of course.
They got another extension, yeah (I wanna say January, but don't quote me). Check your email for something from your loan servicer.
It's about the same level of inaction, all around. It's more disappointing under Biden because you at least expected him to do something. Everyone knew Trump wasn't going to give a shit so long as the economy kept chugging, but I'd like to think people are let down by Biden. After all, the big promise of Biden over Trump as at least Biden takes covid seriously.
Blue maga did a somewhat better job treating covid as real problem and pushing for shitty versions of helping people like "lockdowns" and very conditional aid. That all stopped the moment Trump stopped being president. The only thing that would have changed if Trump won is democrats would have put a small bit of effort into staying mask on instead of going fully mask off, literally and figuratively.
He didn't handle it better but Democrats did more as the opposition than now. It's like everything reversed once they got the power.
He didn't and it's not even close. Biden isn't handling it well at all, but Trump actively made the pandemic worse. I know 2020 was a black hole for memories but try to think back to February through April especially.
I think the mistake here is comparing them at all. The Trump and Biden administrations have been disastrous for working people, and the power structures they represent must be destroyed. That's all there is to it
I think because the democrats were out of power, they (and corporations) put enough pressure on trump that he (who always wanted to be popular) tried to help, was still trashed in the media, and then became indifferent to it, then after he lost tried to get more stimmy because he wanted people to like him and sign his names on the checks.
The real story is that McConnell and corporate interests understood that without aid, their stocks would go down, and oversaw a massive wealth transfer while giving people enough aid to be placated.
Democrats just don’t care and are neoliberals. Republicans will strong arm the free market to help their donors where democrats corporate donors tend to benefit from an untouched market
It's not worth getting too carried away with this great man thing. The US response to Covid has been an absolute disaster from the municipal level all the way up through the counties, states and federal government. Trump and Biden are culpable insofar as they have barely lifted a finger, but I find the complete lack of any institutions to fill the void a lot more damning. We're really all on our own here.
You could make that argument in so far as some of the assistance that was provided to people. But I think its dangerous to overlook the fact that he had a huge hand in establishing the attitude that the right took towards COVID.
And while I don't want to give Dems a ton of credit (they played a large part in the mishandling of the pandemic) they at least tried to counter what Trump was doing on a local level. That is in so far as mask mandates and the "lockdowns", as well as vaccine roll out.
