• LeninWalksTheWorld [any]
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    3 years ago

    80% of Americans are dumbasses who think they are part of the middle class no matter if they make $20k or $250k so it's actually more inclusive than it looks lol

    • yukofrezzeda [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      Still remember the big fight Hasan got into with his community over this because he didn't understand the median income in LA was still only like 30k and he wanted to frame people individually making over 70k like poor working class people because of cost of living.

        • yukofrezzeda [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          Honestly I think the way working class is used is causing the same issues as the way middle class is used. Someone at or below the median is just flat out living in an entirely different world than someone at 70k. Different types of labor, different pay structures, different levels of owernship, different medical care, police, housing, legal system, everything.

          • Mardoniush [she/her]
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            3 years ago

            Yes, they're what Marx would refer to as "Strata", groups with similar modes of production but who don't have the clear separation in ownership of capital and exploitation that makes a Class.

            (Or that cross class boundaries, The intelligentsia for example, which includes prole high school teachers and adjunct lecturers and Bourgois tenured faculty at Harvard. Or the PMC.)

    • SoyViking [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      As decades of propaganda and reaction has done it's best to beat any kind of class consciousness out of people's heads, the class has gone from being understood as a well-defined scientific term to being an incoherent mess of meaningless market segments.

      The guy who owns a construction company is "working class" because he drives a pickup truck and doesn't like gay people while the teacher who will never be able to afford children of her own is not because she went to college and has a BLM bumper sticker on her car. Who can take that crap serious?