measured in agree/strongly agree btw

  • blobjim [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Why are all the questions worded in such an obviously fash way lol. I swear these surveys are as much intended to radicalize participants and viewers as they are to gauge opinions.

    Reminds me of The Onion's weather forecast

  • Jeff_Benzos [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Who conducted this poll? This looks like it was designed by cranks

    • JoesFrackinJack [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      2k people, half biden half trump people. I'd imagine it was done over the phone as well skewing who even took it, as per usual in a lot of political polls

      • cawsby [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        If it did not sample the 40% of Americans who are apathetic and don't vote, this poll is alarmist nonsense.

  • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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    3 years ago

    Wild that people think the red and blue parties are different enough to warrant separate countries. Honestly pisses me off that people can only choose from two parties that are basically the same.

    Electoralism is a fuck. Too much manufactured consent under capitalism for it to work.

    • LoudMuffin [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Wild that people think the red and blue parties are different enough to warrant separate countries.

      I was gonna say yeah but honestly most of the right wingers I've met in my life really do want different things......a lot of them don't explicitly want an ethnostate the same way that actual Nazis like R. Spencer The Hate Dispencer but they would not mind being time warped back to when you could kick Gamer Words in the chest in public and everyone claps and shove gay kids in lockers

      the cultural differences alone are enough sadly

  • twitter [any]
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    3 years ago

    There are many radical, immoral people trying to ruin things

    Those of us in the biz call them "Americans"

    Also friendly reminder that Americans are collectively beyond reformation and the crimes of this guilty land will never be purged away but with blood. :JB-shining-aggro:

      • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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        3 years ago

        All War is Class War etc, etc. But "everything is always bad and getting worse" is an attitude as blinkered and naive as "everything is always good and getting better".

        Ask anyone fleeing the hot zone in Syria or Eritrea whether the US is "in a civil war that took a new form" and they'll look at you like you're fucking bonkers. Americans who desperately yearn for some kind of national civil conflict have absolutely no idea what they're asking for. Americans who think they're in a national civil conflict have absolutely no idea what they're missing.

        Things could be a lot better in this country with better leadership and better policy. They could also get significantly worse if the current batch is replaced by the next generation of idiots and assholes. But people who bitch about bad traffic or whine because a chip shortage means they can't get an XBox for Christmas have no notion of what a war zone looks like.

      • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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        3 years ago

        Its not really supposed to have a popular mandate. The role of the courts is to establish primacy of law. If two legal standards conflict, individuals need to know which one has precedence. Otherwise, you end up with situations in which everything you do (or don't do) is functionally illegal.

        When a Congress accumulates legislation over time that results in contradictory legal doctrine, it isn't the court's job to appease the public. Its the court's job to untangle the mess. Congress is then given the job of re-legislating to establish a legal code that has popular approval.

        There are a lot of things wrong with the modern courts. But they are, at their heart, simply filling a bureaucratic role. They aren't supposed to be setting policy. They're supposed to be shaping policy such that it is a thing people can actually abide by.

    • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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      3 years ago

      you misread. the left number is the percentage of respondents who at least somewhat agree, so the right number is a subset of those

      • abc [he/him, comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        It is more likely that recency bias is playing into it. I know a lot of libs are mad about the supreme court as of the last ~2 years and I'm sure things like them constantly hearing the same "well, he's not appointed by Biden so there's nothing he can do to remove him..." every time Louis DeJoy is brought up on stings a bit for some libs. Not to mention I feel like a lot of conservatives as of January 6th have been wary of being loud and proud about their fetish for the 'no tred!!' snake and their usual mask off fascism in general.

  • LeftistJerrySeinfeld [xey/xem]
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    3 years ago

    The thing is that for polling, question wording can drastically change responses. We're pretty fucked, but I dont trust national polls that much tbh

  • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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    3 years ago

    I choose to believe this survey was conducted by pollsters who hadn't shaved or showered in weeks and just hung out on the street, grabbing passers-by by the shoulders and demanding answers to these questions.

    "If our society so wants, it is the duty of every true citizen to help eliminate the evil that poisons our society from within! DO YOU AGREE?"

    "Uh, look man, I dunno about that"

    "So you believe that the evil should be able to continue poisoning our society, uninhibited?"

    "Uh, no, I mean, I guess fighting evil is good... just uh, who are you talking about and what exactly are you planning to do to them?"

    "Excellent, now, how strongly would you say you agree with fighting the evil that lurks beneath society? Only slightly, or do you strongly agree?"

    Seriously that question is so vague that it could include anything from, "Every citizen has a responsibility to stop Trump! :vote:" to someone getting ready to shoot up a shopping mall because it's the only way to stop the evil Jewish puppet masters corrupting society. Because it's so vague it really sounds like the latter trying to frame his perspective in a way that sounds reasonable, because normal people usually don't phrase things like that. Which begs the question, why the fuck did they phrase these questions so vaguely? Wtf am I supposed to get from this?

  • guppyman [any]
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    3 years ago

    Q: are bad things bad? -Somewhat agree- OR -Strongly agree-

  • Sushi_Desires
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    3 years ago

    lmao at the liberals respecting "the rule of law" less than the fascists in q4

  • Mrtryfe [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    All this tells me is that some people decided to answer some very leading questions

  • LoudMuffin [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Stuff like this makes me wonder: is the US going to experience brain drain? As this country declines I find it harder and harder to believe that educated professionals are going to want to stay here, especially since (anecdotally) a lot of the professionals around where I live are minorities