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  • sagarmatha [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    because they considered pointless opposition at the expense of your own life to be irrational and thereafter a mental illness, whether it is right or wrong i won t make a judgement either way

      • sagarmatha [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        keep in mind we are talking about the soviet system, there is an ontological difference with capitalist systems wherein you're not forced into internal contradictions, so you wouldn't have just a drive to put down the system, it would have to be something you notice at least somewhat consciously and decide to oppose even if it doesn't affect you and you can't affect it (relatedly capitalism is always changing so you would not have the same impression as with soviet stability on what you can change)

      • sagarmatha [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        is it though (not rethorical)? like personally i get the point even if it was instrumentalized later on, case in point being Alex Jones who probably is more than just a grifter with some mental condition

        • HeckHound [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Yes of course it’s fucking awful. I’m a disabled, mentally ill anarchist, just so you know where I’m coming from here, and I find the idea that the State could simply assign me a mental illness and forcibly institutionalize me if I were to protest against State-sponsored injustice to be deeply dystopian and horrifying.

          As for the rest, I’m really not sure what you’re getting at here. Are you trying to say that Alex Jones should be forcibly institutionalized for being mentally ill? Because fuck that, there’s plenty of actual reasons to shut him down without weaponizing the systemic mistreatment of those suffering from a mental crisis.

          • sagarmatha [none/use name]
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            3 years ago

            who said anything about institutionalizing, i am only talking about a diagnosis, also we're talking about the ussr which isn't the here and now obviously

  • penguin_von_doom [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    Not sure, but Soviet era psychiatry wasn't really good abd from what I gather was behind its western equivalent at the same time (I studied with Soviet era textbooks and most of my profs had changed little in the things they teach, and later on had the opportunity to "catch up" with western literature) so that could be one reason to have a weird diagnostic category.

  • fed [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    what is the equivalent today? Schizoid Personality Disorder?

    during the same time mental removedation was a diagnostic in the US. they are simply the blunt descriptors of a condition of their time.

    • NephewAlphaBravo [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      There isn't one. It sounds somewhat in line with Cluster A personality disorders so you're not really wrong there, but we now know that those aren't early-stage schizophrenia.

      • fed [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        oh from the name i infered it meant like depressive schizophrenia, not slow onset

        • NephewAlphaBravo [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Yeah I had to look it up and even then it's a vague as shit term. Funny enough, from what I gather Schizoid is the least similar to it, since Schizoid has no paranoia or detachment from reality.

  • RNAi [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    What does that mean? Like, slowly schizophrenic?

      • RNAi [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Makes sense,

        Why schizophrenia particularly need that characterization? Like, for any mental illness I would add if it came quick or slow

    • HeckHound [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      To save you from yourself, at least. So they bodged together a solution that would remove the offender from society and prevent him from possibly infecting others.

      As a mentally ill person who’s worked as an EMT and seen this mentality put into action, all I can say is fuck you. Mental illness is not fucking infectious, and that kind of rhetoric is obviously designed to justify oppressing the people most in need to help.

      I still have difficulty talking to therapists and get panic attacks about being forcibly institutionalized because some cop or burned-out psychologist decided it would be for “my own good”, because I saw it happen to others dozens of times and it horrifies me.