Why you should purge Vaushites and fake “anarchists” immediately, as shown in two pictures.
Late link cause :LIB:
Lol, Nakoichi holding it down:
You don't get to dictate what is or isn't left you dorknob. Try doing any of this shitflinging during rl organizing and you would be ejected. You vaush people are fucking insufferable and not just on the internet.
I feel like I'd enjoy meeting a lot of the people on here irl.
The only way I would meet anyone is over one of those stupid big tankards of beer that slosh everywhere when we clap them together in a cheers
Sounds good for me, but I imagine there are some Muslim or teetotaler comrades here…
a bomb-ass shirley temple with fresh fruit juice for them, or whatever they can think of!
Preach. In my experience, real life organizing tends to involve everyone from "DemSocs" and Kautskyists to MLs and even Trots. Vaushite gatekeepers tend to be exceptional in that they either keep their "opinions" to themselves or are ejected enough where it doesn't become a noticeable issue.
And yeah, :left-unity-2:
lmao I will never forget the nice boomer trotskyist lady that shopped at the place I used to work that said she just thought Lenin was "too violent" like bruh...
More than that like what do they think permanent revolution would entail lol?
Trotsky considered himself a “Bolshevik-Leninist”. Not sure how you’d reconcile that…
“Kautskyites” tend to be self-styled DemSocs who consider themselves Marxist/Marxian. Basically most people at the Jacobin mag staff.
Weirdly, they vary on Lenin.
All of us still debating the finer points of theory as bullets rain down on us. Well after our hearts have stopped and we show no brain activity our lips are still moving.
But maybe the guards will mistake you for one of their own and you could get out
I got to see someone like this get ejected from three different socialist orgs around here. Once for arguing that raising the minimum wage "isn't socialism" and another two times for making antisemitic jokes. Also being generally annoying
It's incredible that the DSA elected the clown prince of the alt right as their president not once, but twice.
We'd finally get to meet our handlers face-to-face, though
Vaushites calling everyone else fascists while idolizing a dude that parrots white supremacist talking points between ramblings on how hot it is to fuck children is really something to behold. I enjoy throwing in that I can see why people like Woody Allen still enjoy a fanbase.
The poster in particular is an "anarchist" who posts on tankiejerk because of course. Naturally, they are functionally indistinct.
The venn diagram of people in tankiejerk and VaushV is basically a circle.
Woody Allen at least made funny movies sometimes, and there's enough room for doubt (it's icky no matter how you look at it but not worse than your average celebrity). I can't see the amusement one could get from voosh.
I'm fortunately old enough that I don't really get the appeal of streamers for the most part, or at least don't feel the need to form parasocial relationships with them. I think a lot of it is people tying up their self worth with the content they consume and any denunciation of that content is seen as a personal attack on them.
But like, I enjoy streamers, I just don't get how seeing that ham screaming misunderstood Wikipedia articles is fun.
meh, the woody allen thing was likely slander https://youtu.be/muyaCg2dGAk this video does a good job detailing it.
A guy that marries his ex step daughter who is around 30 years his junior is pretty gross however you spin it. Also not watching a 2 and a half hour video.
Vaush is going the path of Destiny and becoming increasingly conservative the more I hear from him. Makes sense that the only clips of people watching Vaush irl were a policeman and US troops.
I'll be shocked if he doesn't make a "Why I left the Left" video in the next few months.
Imo he's been plying his cult to announce he's now an out of the closet libertarian for a year or two. They absolutely love him dragging actual leftists and will write up 5000 word essays about why constantly talking over a black woman trying to discuss desegregation with "So you want to murder all the white people?" is actually cool and good.
He'll deliberately convolute libertarian and anarchist to fuck with people if that happens.
If he says he's libertarian the age of consent memes will be off the charts.
The “communism” that he advocates for is already just capitalism, but with worker coops and a smaller state. He would deny that, but when he talks about what he’s in favor of, that’s what he talks about
That's true.
Hey on the plus side if he does admit he's libertarian it'll be super easy to convince a bunch of subreddits to just blanket ban his users.
I had a friend (now-ex friend) that was a leftist then fell down the Vaush hole and turning into a raving liberal. His politics became completely asinine, and he constantly made it personal because he was indoctrinated to.
It doesn't shock me at all that Vaush is unmasking slowly because I knew he was at best a liberal from the start. He hijacked the popular rise of leftism during the Trump years and convinced his base that by being staunch libs they were the real progressives because they "win". He also is going to follow the route of Destiny because that is simply what he is financially railroaded into.
To me this honestly feels like the best path for him and his fanbase. Their ideology is pure spite and we clearly can't deprogram Vaush himself (I doubt anybody could), so ideally his followers will just gradually get more and more ideologically deranged until they finally refuse to call themselves "leftists" anymore and we no longer have to argue over whether or not they're "allies." Sure, the right/libs will just absorb them instead, but they've proven they're useless at anything other than intentionally provoking people so i doubt it'd help them. I'd rather they be mocking from the sidelines than actually organizing and sabotaging movements from the inside.
They'll just move on to becoming neoliberals who talk about how they were radicals in their youth before facing reality or something like that.
Hitler: worldleaderwiththesmallestspoonisthewinner
Stalin: ah fuck
Stalin was the real bad guy of WWII
I mean, if the US was fighting on his side, that shows right there that he was one of the Bad Guys.
When Robert Conquest isn't anti-communist enough for you so you just go with vibes
Communism, but based on vibes:
:stalin-smokin:
Yo you hear Grimes’ interview on Hasan? I’d follow her into the revolution, bro
:stalin-smokin:
Yeah dude she’s into tavern music and she’s got a whip now. I hear she read the communist manifesto like a decade ago
She is not trained enough with it for that. She almost whipped out her own eye
More and more lately I've been thinking about the purges and the so-called anarchists, and frankly I think I'm starting to understand what kind of "anarchists" were either excluded from the political process or even imprisoned were probably like the 1910s version of vaushites.
I'm sure this is wrong in many ways but you know, first as tragedy second as farce.
I personally don't really know, though I wouldn't be surprised if it was a mix and the fake shitty anarchists often ruined things for the cool real ones. That's kinda how it works today anyways.
Yeah I know the broader strokes of the conflicts and ideological disagreements but I've never really looked much into the finer details. Just a thing I thought about recently.
Lol, NGL dude this comes off as an attempt to skirt the anti-sectarianism rule.
Sure I can see how that might come off that way but it's a legitimate thing I have thought about recently and so I brought it up.
Not like there's anywhere else I could say something like that without just pissing everyone off. It's not an indictment of anarchists in general nor is it an excuse for their treatment by the soviets I was really just thinking aloud.
the ussr had problems, mostly of complete incompetency in people in positions of power in the party from the top down from the ~1960s onward.
Online anarchists comparing it to fascist states is a bit insane. The worst (which this is horrific to be fair) you can point to the genocide of the Crimean Tatars who were accused of working with the enemy (same excuse Turkish gov used to genocide the Armenians), which the USSR later apologized for in the 50s.
e: actually i forgot about afghanistan, also quite awful for both the conscripts sent to their meaningless death, and the thousands upon thousands of civilians the ussr killed through indiscriminate bombing
A lot of these dorks really tell on themselves when they paint all socialist countries as worse or more imperialist than Canada or Sweden or whatever
Because these people are mostly young people from north america and western europe, raised on post-cold war propaganda, and can't comprehend anything more socialist than a liberal democracy welfare state with a socdem party in power
Was the Soviet intervention in Afghanistan a bad thing? They were defending a fellow socialist state against American-backed religious extremists.
I'm dumb and unread so maybe I'm missing the bad part? Was it in how the war was executed?
It was utterly incompetently handled, at the very least. A truly useful intervention would have looked very little like what they ended up doing.
The american backing was not in the beginning of the war. There were effectively 2 afghanistan's, the people in the city and the rural people.
When the soviets tried to impose mild secular reforms they had back lash from the rural farmers.
Also the entire war was just soviet conscripts slaughtering civilians because they are far far worse off in terms of training / culture compared to american solider.
Also Afghanistan was hardly a socialist state,'it em was basiclly a corrupt plutocracy that served as a puppet for moscow. Which is shown when they literally assassinated the head of state which helped descend the country into chaos
I thought it wasn't the soviets doing the mild secular reforms, but the guy who became head after the Saur revolution. Sparking actual backlash which he met with purges against them and the more Soviet-minded members of the revolution. However Brezhnev was flip flopping and hands off so he tacitly backed the leader
:geordi-no: Every left-wing movement that ever succeeded.
:geordi-yes: My oddly specific ideology that only exists online.
Soviets? Cancelled. Cuba? Cancelled. Bolivia? Cancelled. Rojava? Chiapas? So awesome, what a paradise! No, I don't actually know anything about them, why do you ask?
Honestly, assholes like this can only have two views on any movement that actually succeeds (all of which are outside the imperial core):
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Actually they aren't leftists, they're fascists. Only people who agree with my ideology are real leftists.
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Weird fucking gross fetishization where they know basically nothing about the actual situation on the ground but live vicariously by projecting their ideological fantasies onto actual revolutionaries struggling in the real world who most likely wouldn't agree with them on basically anything.
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Memes about historical events from a leftist perspective our friends: /r/libjerk /r/rightjerk r/okbuddytankie
Actual fucking clowns. :funny-clown-hammer:
I actually hadn’t noticed that.
Radlibs can’t contaminate something they created I guess.
