Looks like body armor is getting more common in these things. I've heard it's best in that situation to target the attacker's pelvis instead. I don't know how true it is but it seems logical.
“Body armor” could mean anything from a nylon air soft vest to some heavy mil surplus shit with ceramic chest plates, or even like, a bunch of welded together metal scraps like that one old outlaw had. In any case, they probably didn’t bother to armor their head or thighs, both of which would bleed out quickly if damaged.
Extra History is pretty lib but their series on Ned Kelly was excellent. The guy tried to live an honest life but kept getting called a criminal by the rich and powerful until one day he said "Fine, fuck it. I guess I am a criminal now" and proceeded to make every rich asshole in Australia dread his existence
1k? I got my level 4 plates for a little over a hundred, minus the carrier. Heavy and bulky and on sale, but certified level 4. Armor is cheap now, and I'm surprised we haven't seen it used in crime more.
yeah shooting a pistol at distance is pretty rough. 60 feet if youre good and prepared, though from what i've seen 30 feet is what most people can do in a high stress situation which is very close honestly
Reminds me of the North Hollywood shootout from 90's. Two guys decked out in armor and got armor piercing rounds got in a crazy shootout with cops. Here's a documentary if anyone feels like blowing 20 mintues.
Yeah the 3 armed bank robberies does sound like a lot. They were saying that back then they didn't carry assault rifles or anything. Nowadays I'm pretty sure they got one in every car.
Watching cops go from pistol, to pistol and six mags, to assault rifle in the car, to assault rifle in every single interaction was bizarre. I remember taunting National Guard dorks in the airport after 9/11 bc they were issued rifles but no ammo, and now twenty years later every hog in the country has an assault rifle and goes on SWAT LARPs twice a year.
"It's friday, TGIF for employees at a bank in North Hollywood. But when the horror begins, the end of their work-week will become frozen in time. Two men, DEMONS as the police call them, approach a bank"
Yeah the documentary covers that. They took barbituates to make themselves calm so they wouldn't panic and make bad decisions. They synchronized their watches to 8 minutes because they calculated that's how long it'd take cops to get there. But they miscalculated and it only took 2-3 minutes for cops to surround the building.
Thousands of rounds fired, but the only people who died were the two bank robbers. But that didn't stop the piggies from using it to justify massive militarization for decades afterward.
makes sense, your shots after the first would likely raise your barrel anyways. body armor really covers the ribcage area and a little lower, gut shots and lower i assume are not as fatal as the ribcage.
Looks like body armor is getting more common in these things. I've heard it's best in that situation to target the attacker's pelvis instead. I don't know how true it is but it seems logical.
“Body armor” could mean anything from a nylon air soft vest to some heavy mil surplus shit with ceramic chest plates, or even like, a bunch of welded together metal scraps like that one old outlaw had. In any case, they probably didn’t bother to armor their head or thighs, both of which would bleed out quickly if damaged.
Iirc the buffalo shooter had a military helmet on
Must be the Delta variant of school shooter.
lmfaoooooo. Holy shit
Oooof
You mean Ned Kelly? Dude was pretty cool, from what I’ve heard.
Extra History is pretty lib but their series on Ned Kelly was excellent. The guy tried to live an honest life but kept getting called a criminal by the rich and powerful until one day he said "Fine, fuck it. I guess I am a criminal now" and proceeded to make every rich asshole in Australia dread his existence
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1WmidFwFzY&list=PLhyKYa0YJ_5B-ZwtgBs6p43JywAvN_TGl
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Level 4 plates that can reliably stop multiple rifle rounds cost less than 1k for a set.
1k? I got my level 4 plates for a little over a hundred, minus the carrier. Heavy and bulky and on sale, but certified level 4. Armor is cheap now, and I'm surprised we haven't seen it used in crime more.
Realistically, hitting a specific small part of a person, with a pistol, at a distance, while that person is shooting at you, is beyond most people.
yeah shooting a pistol at distance is pretty rough. 60 feet if youre good and prepared, though from what i've seen 30 feet is what most people can do in a high stress situation which is very close honestly
Reminds me of the North Hollywood shootout from 90's. Two guys decked out in armor and got armor piercing rounds got in a crazy shootout with cops. Here's a documentary if anyone feels like blowing 20 mintues.
why is this documentary so funny tho?
it's almost like a parody of American television programming.
also, how many billions of dollars do you reckon the police milked out of this shit?
edit: "there were an average of 3 armed bank robberies a day in Los Angeles". there's no way that's true, right??
Yeah the 3 armed bank robberies does sound like a lot. They were saying that back then they didn't carry assault rifles or anything. Nowadays I'm pretty sure they got one in every car.
Watching cops go from pistol, to pistol and six mags, to assault rifle in the car, to assault rifle in every single interaction was bizarre. I remember taunting National Guard dorks in the airport after 9/11 bc they were issued rifles but no ammo, and now twenty years later every hog in the country has an assault rifle and goes on SWAT LARPs twice a year.
In every car and on every motorbike too
"It's friday, TGIF for employees at a bank in North Hollywood. But when the horror begins, the end of their work-week will become frozen in time. Two men, DEMONS as the police call them, approach a bank"
who the fuck wrote this script :data-laughing:
(Reenactment)
https://crimereads.com/the-rise-and-fall-of-the-bank-robbery-capital-of-the-world/ It actually is true
holy shit
This is familiar, these the guys that dosed up on muscle relaxants beforehand?
Yeah the documentary covers that. They took barbituates to make themselves calm so they wouldn't panic and make bad decisions. They synchronized their watches to 8 minutes because they calculated that's how long it'd take cops to get there. But they miscalculated and it only took 2-3 minutes for cops to surround the building.
Thousands of rounds fired, but the only people who died were the two bank robbers. But that didn't stop the piggies from using it to justify massive militarization for decades afterward.
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Learned about this from The Dollop!
Really? Which episode?
They're trying to ban you from buying armored vests and helmets to wear at protests hth.
I mean there are kevlar backpacks. This shooter was what? 18? Of course he'd have some familiarity with wearing body armor on a school campus.
What a horrible country this is.
makes sense, your shots after the first would likely raise your barrel anyways. body armor really covers the ribcage area and a little lower, gut shots and lower i assume are not as fatal as the ribcage.