I swear patsocs have to be feds posing as Marxists to give easy targets to anti-communists. No one is this stupid.

  • Asa_the_Red [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I know there definitely are Americans who would be this dumb, but theres something about patsocs that just seems so manufactured. Idk, they're probably not all feds but their shit is definitely being astroturfed to smear Marxists

    • Tervell [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I guess the thing that makes me skeptical is that American nationalist brainworms run so deep that I can definitely imagine people being like this unironically. Like yeah, responding to any sort of critique of the US with the flag and an eagle is very on brand.

      But yeah, there could definitely be a fed element, and at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter if you're actually technically working for the feds or not if you're still serving imperialist ends. Perhaps a better way to think about the fedposting angle is not necessarily to think of it as dedicated agents whose job it is to sit on a computer like :fedposting: and log onto twitter every day, but rather the feds putting certain rhetoric out, and idiots picking it up and running with it. The first few original patsocs may have been feds (or at least may have been fed talking points by feds), but at this point it might be pretty much a self-sustaining thing.

      • Asa_the_Red [he/him]
        hexagon
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        2 years ago

        Oh absolutely. there are certainly bot farms run by the intelligence agencies, but if feds were behind this its more like those accounts would be used to prop up figures like haz/hinkle/etc and then they'd get actual followers in the mix posting stuff like the above.

        Im mostly shitposting when I say they have to feds. I agree American brainworms explains this just as well

      • Asa_the_Red [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        The public also hates communism. Anti-communism is ingrained in the American public, and generally a part of deprogramming that is learning that America is bad. Its very odd to have a person espousing both a communist ideology and American patriotism because the two are pretty clearly opposed to each other