gcj post making fun of this man
Americans have a deep-seated deranged longing to be in a situation where absolute brutality can be hypothetically justified. Self-defense violence fantasies continue to be unhinged. There’s a shitload of supportive comments in the AMA too.
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the taller guy grabbed his stuff and ran out of the store, the guy that got stabbed jumped over the counter to grab stuff, but he was far away from the store keeper. The store keeper actually rushed to stab him. Stupidity from all parties.
Can you explain why?
You ever been in a fight? Things happen very very very fast. Most people don't realize if they've been stabbed until a couple of minutes later because a knife goes in and out of you so fast you barely feel it until the adrenaline starts to wear down. A lot of people never even see the knife because really how visible is four inches of steel sticking out of someone's fist? A gun could come out of nowhere with no real warning.
Or someone could just knock you down and kick you in the head until you die. Hell, some kid in I think Spain died the other day bc a guy he was in a shouting match with shoved or punched him and he fell down and hit his head. Fractured skull. Died of cerebral hemorrhage about 20 hours later. Only got hit once and the hit itself didn't even do much damage, the fall did.
If someone comes at you unexpectedly you should assume that they're going to hurt you and do everything in your power to defend yourself without concern for the attackers safety or welfare. You can give them first aid once they're incapacitated if you want.
I cannot emphasize enough how little time you have to make critical assessments like "Does this guy have a knife?" "Does this guy have a blunt object?" "Can I run away?" "Can I get to a safe place?" Time slows down, most people either freeze or react on pure subconscious instinct mode.
And this all gets multiplied if you're old, or a woman, or disabled, or just a smaller person facing a larger person. If your attacker has a physical advantage over you your situation just got exponentially worse and it becomes that much more important that you use overwhelming violence to gain control of the situation so you can either fight off your assailant or create room to escape. You're not even trying to hurt them, that's not the goal; The goal is to shock them out of their "I'm the attacker and I'm in control" mindset so you have room to act, either to put them on the defensive so you can put them out of the fight, or to give yourself space to make a break for it.
I should say; If you're going to rob someone there is still some social contract shit incumbent on you. You need to be a good robber. If you're holding a knife to someone's gut or have a loaded gun pointed at someone's head you're not robinhood anymore. You're directly and immediately threatening their life and they're well within their rights to fight you with no regard for your safety.
Yes, you should comply with a robber and just give them whatever they want, but the robber has an obligation to take your safety seriously while they're robbing you. It's a two way street. We're all getting fucked by the system but you want to be robin hood you can't be a menace to other poor people.
A threat to me in any context is a binary choice between them or me. I choose me. It's the same moral logic that I employ any time a hunter is mauled to death by the animal they chose to hunt. Fuck 'em, learning occurred.
can confirm
I have in fact gotten my ass kicked a bunch of times. :shrug-outta-hecks:
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Are they robbing you or are they robbing the store? If they are robbing the store what exactly is the problem with just giving them whatever is in the store, which is probably company policy anyways?
Have you been watching a bunch of videos of "Store Robberies Gone Wrong" or something of that nature, lately?
who they are robbing would be irrelevant, they're in your face and threatening you
and you can't know if they will just take the stuff and leave, or harm you even if you gave them what they wanted
disclaimer: the dude in the video is a psychopath who did not need to stab the guy
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U really think the death penalty is appropriate for a smash and grab robbery? Nobody's life was in danger. This was just a $100 loss, which would be covered by insurance in any case. Even if it wasn't, seriously what business can't absorb that kind of loss? If you can't you shouldn't be open in the first place. If it's less than $950 it's not even a prosecutable crime in civilized jurisdictions.
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OK boomer.
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There was a giant gap between the shop owner and the thief before he lunged for the first stab. He wasn't realistically in any danger at that point and easily could have backed off. This is hardly a justifiable self-defence even without the clear intent to keep stabbing until the guy is dead.
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My main issue here is: why are you playing some weird two-step game here, where you admit that this was not at all a legitimate use of force in the name of self-defense, then also make excuses for the guy doing it? Or talk some weird shit about how "If anyone steps to me, I'll put that punk down in two seconds."
It just feels like you're givin' off the same energy as the guy with the " 'Within the Law' Could Cost me my Life. No Lives Matter." bumper-stickers that we had posted on here earlier this week, and I don't understand why you think saying any of this is necessary in this situation.
Whatever you say, boomer.
make higher quality posts
two ordinary citizens murdering each other isn't "the death penalty"