Dec. 6 is the anniversary of Marc Lépine’s misogynistic assault on École Polytechnique de Montréal in 1989. On that day, Mr. Lépine entered a classroom armed with a semi-automatic rifle. He asked all the men to leave and then opened fire. He murdered 14 women and wounded another 14 people before taking his own life.
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The day before the anniversary, Mr. Rochefort posted an altered photo depicting Mr. Lépine with an assault rifle in front of a group of women, telling his readers that Dec. 6 “should be a day when we remember the first counterattack against the femin*zis’ war on men.” In August, 2022, he was convicted of inciting hatred toward women.
Some incidents of incel violence have started to be treated as acts of terrorism, and the Canadian governemtn IIRC has recently considered treating the incel "movement" as a domestic terrorism threat.
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(i'll save a struggle session for a future thread, but ill qualify here that i don't think agree with the content of what he's said (recently obviously, but maybe for many years now (or maybe ever)), and i also don't think he's simply been misunderstood, or is inarticulate: his ideas are deeply selfish and pernicious, despite fans' overly charitable interpretations.)
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ha. well, presuamably there would be some investigation RE assumptions about the value of work and the (ir)reducibility to meaning/content (art being reducible to a set of statements); obviously artist/work distinctions (and the degree to which anyone's life is a work, in like a Nietzschean sense I guess); the ability of art to be perverse/profane or illuminate/depict what is ugly; art as an outlet for the mentally ill; the relationship between artist and listener; ethical considerations of art. and so on.
I look forward to that future struggle session, popcorn in hand.
Is there a need for a struggle session just because some idol worshippers can't accept that their idol has chosen to become a hate icon?
And how come we don't mock this as parasocial behaviour?
the contours of the SS would develop in real time, but the interloculators would be between those who identify with lawerence's observation that one's soul is a dark forest, and hear divinity when beat the switches on New Slaves, and the dorks who are so insecure in what they feel and believe that they need every aspect of the world to reflect themselves at every moment, and unironically use language like parasocial behavior
Parasocial behaviour describes a phenomenon, I'd love to understand why it's incorrect to "unironically use such language." The weak insults hidden behind flowery, psuedo-intellectual rambling didn't explain very well.
i'm sure you're using it correctly, i just associate it w/the language of being too online.
Oh I see, you're probably right in the sense that it was likely coined by people who are too online, but I think the phenomenon far predates the coining of the term. I think it goes hand-in-hand with the concept of the cult of personality. Being obsessed with celebrity culture is mainstream though, when we say "parasocial," we don't refer to having imagined bonds with musicians, actors or politicians, we mean YouTubers and Twitch streamers. Yet I'd argue the former is also parasocial if you feel a need to jump through hoops to excuse blatant reactionary behaviour from someone just because you like their music, for example.
oh no no no mr. orion, i said the struggle session will occur later.
but i condemned and still condemn his behavior, so you'll need to insinuate something more substantial at the appropriate time.
Yeah, that's the thing, you did condemn him with quite a lengthy disclaimer, didn't you? At the same time, you called yourself a "big Kanye apologist." I hand waved the idea of a struggle session on the topic because I didn't think it was worth one for "this person now represents something I despise but they've made some bangers tho" but now my curiosity is piqued at the possible nuanced angle you could come at this with. Maybe I was too quick in my hand waving, guess we'll see. I'll look forward to reading this at the appropriate time.
yes-- i look forward to your charitable ear and your quick wit.