Sike, I still like it

  • glimmer_twin [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Ruined my day when I first heard this about Creedence. Also blew my mind when I found out Elton John didn’t write his own lyrics lol

    • Antoine_St_Hexubeary [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      At least Elton John had a prolonged partnership with a lyricist whom he had good chemistry with and seemed to like on a personal level, rather than just working with whoever the record company sends him, which I get the impression is what happens with Garth Brooks.

      • wrecker_vs_dracula [comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        Caring about whether a band writes their own songs is very boomer, and mostly came about because of mechanical royalties in the United States.

          • wrecker_vs_dracula [comrade/them]
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            2 years ago

            Perspective: Nobody gave a shit whether Louis Armstrong or the Andrews Sisters wrote their own material. Expecting audiences to value performers who also were songwriters was a boomer phenomenon, starting mid 1960s-ish. That wasn't very long ago, and the technology of audio recording wasn't around for very long before that. But royalties are paid to songwriters according to a legal framework designed for player piano reels, predating all that even.

            • MC_Kublai [none/use name]
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              2 years ago

              We shouldn't shame or look down upon in any way those who perform songs written by others, but trying to diminish the value in an artist composing their own work as "boomer" is fucking banal

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              • wrecker_vs_dracula [comrade/them]
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                2 years ago

                So Garth Brooks is a creature of the Nashville country music industry. The Nashville machine has not followed the trend of promoting songwriting bands to anywhere near the same extend as the LA record labels have. Criticizing a country music entertainer for not writing his own songs is like criticizing a magpie for having white stripes. There is indeed great value in songwriting bands. To the artist (or whoever has contracted the rights to the artist's recordings), it means double the royalties. To the record companies it helps diminish the power of ASCAP, which used to function much more like a proper union than it does today. The expectation that a band should write its own songs was first cultivated in the 60s in an audience of baby boomers, using baby boomer bands. It's about as boomer as bell bottom jeans. That doesn't mean it's in any way bad for a band to write its own songs, but division of labor between songwriters and entertainers was the norm before that, and continues to be in many musical traditions.

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              • wrecker_vs_dracula [comrade/them]
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                2 years ago

                ...unless you consider the ~1915 Jelly Roll Morton piano rolls to be the first jazz recordings. But that's semantics. As jazz became a popular music, the trend of performing popular songs in a jazz style became very common for working bands.

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                  • RNAi [he/him]
                    hexagon
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                    2 years ago

                    Yeah but one thing is sone craker stealing culture and other is someonw paying someone else to write them a good song