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but I know people tend to hate fake shit. (Just look at the fake meat industry. It’s not doing so well.)
Mmmhmm, just gotta get that dig in against vegans, classic stuff
I too am sick of the "vegan ____ is fake ____" line. It's like they're implying it's made out of packing peanuts and mysterious chemicals :ohnoes:
It isn't "fake meat" it's a real vegan burger.
This is exactly my feeling. why call this black bean burger a "Ultimate COW BEEF burger (no beef)" I just want a black bean burger.
Showing by pbc treatboy side but you remember the garden burgers BK used to have? I thought they were a lot better than the new impossible whoppers.
O don't remember specifically those but I'm not surprised. When a burger is advertised as like a black bean burger or garden burger I trust it wayyy more lol. There's black bean burgers I've had at restaurants I remember. I still want to go eat em. Can't recall any impossible style burgers I def want again.
I once saw a guy claim that most land use and pollution comes from growing/manufacturing vegan food. He was deadass too because it was on the anti vegan subreddit
I mean that's true but only if you're counting cattle feed as vegan food lol
But how can it be doing well, if I, the protagonist of reality, do not consume it?
If you like seitan, tvp, related products, fine. Personally just give me the vegetables that have the protein, cooked and spiced but otherwise unprocessed, tastes like food, does not resemble rubber at all, yummy in my tummy
lmao that's hilarious.
I say this as a guy who likes manual transmissions. Fake engine noises are already sus as hell, but at least with those you can make the argument that they're for pedestrians so your vehicle doesn't sneak up on them - the only thing this system does is reduce your efficiency until you learn to perfectly mimic what the computer would have done anyway.
at a recent pikes peak one of the electrics was using clips from some movie as their pedestrian warning sound.
why replicate a shitty ICE engine when
ithe bus could sound like the enterprise going to warp or make everyone outside listen to thilla killa klowns?lmao that's great. I would say set a decibel range that the car has to make sound in, no need to mandate that that sound be modeled after an ICE engine revving.
tbh i'd prefer not having the noise pollution at all, but i'll put up with it to not social murder people who can't see well.
Saving $4000 on your accessories by making vroom-vroom noises with your mouth
This is like when they added a “sports mode” to modern muscle cars that just make artificially loud, obnoxious noises that don’t reflect any sort of modification or performance to the car
Most sport.modes just change the throttle map. So when the pedal is at 50% the actual throttle us at 75% for example
As a person who first learned how to drive stick shift and drove one for about 5 years before getting an automatic transmission vehicle... I have no intention to go back to manual ever.
I personally love mine but again, car enthusiast. Like mostly hobbies just the act of doing the hobby is enjoyable.
I hope this is my last one though. If I ever buy a car again so help me it'll be electric. I didn't this time because I have literally no place to charge it and my landlord refused to add a plug even though I offered to pay for it. And before anyone is like WHY WOULD NEED A CAR because even though I live in one of the transit capitals in the US, my partner works outside the city and there's no way to get there without one. Blame America
Blame America
good guiding principle. you'll beat the odds on being correct.
The only reason I have a manual is because all the connected IoT shit in cars is terrifying. Like how someone could just hack your car and force it to crash into tree at 100mph. Or software bugs leading to brakes not working, etc. I don't think mine is connected in that way but even if it is I can put it in neutral and turn the engine off with the key.
literally like some cars are requiring a monthly payment for being able to use heated seats, but worse. missed the brakes payment? sorry buddy!!!
There's a SAAS motorcycle helmet with a built in airbag. If you aren't current on your airbag subscription and you're in an accident it simply refuses to save your life.
I like it because adhd... it's a repetitive motion that replaces stimming so my brain can focus on something else.
I want this but only if its an actual manual transmission and only if there is a real increase in efficiency
there can't be an efficiency increase because electric motors are basically the same efficiency across the RPM range.
The only reason ICE cars do it is because engines have torque/horsepower peaks across rev ranges and it aims to stay in the good ranges at different speeds. That's also why CVT (transmission type without distinct gears) is banned in F1, because it's too good for racing.
Consumer CVTs are all terrible though, which is why even automatic cars have gears
youd have a hard time finding one to practice on too. i drove manual for 10 years but gave it up cause my commute became longer. the only benefit is no transmission to go out on you, otherwise it probably is less gas efficient and more annoying to drive in traffic.
They used to be cheaper to fix and more gas efficient but now modern auto transmissions are highly efficient, and manuals are produced at such low numbers that replacing the transmission isn't as cheap.
And then you have the huge pain of driving in traffic or hilly terrain
if you don't abuse a manual the transmission can easily last the life of the car. but Honda CVTs are so reliable now, and ride way smoother than me shifting.
hilly terrain
hild hold in modern cars make this trivial, but yeah stop-and-go traffic is a pain
They’re still better than all but the most recent and advanced automatics when the driver is aware of what’s going on. I live in a mountainous area and even new automatics are always switching between bogging or racing trying to figure out how to handle the changing load. Just taking control and telling it what gear to stay in makes a world of difference if you have the +/- or paddles.
Still cheaper to fix too.
I prefer manual for some situations (I learned on and owned one for around 12 years), but I have a hard time suggesting it to anyone. Most of the auto drivers that struggle on mountain driver don't understand that there's a gear mode for low gear that solves some (not all) of the issues of driving on sloped roads.
My friend replaced his last manual with another and he's not super happy about it. Just isn't a great driving experience when you live in a high traffic urban center. We both agree if we lived somewhere more suburban or rural that the manual would be preferrable
Can you toggle the engine noises? can you turn up or down the volume? Can you make the conscious decision to be an asshole with a car that wakes up the whole neighborhood?
so car people basically need little toys in their car to play with or they won't buy them?? lmao
Those tax incentives are starting to dry up. Gotta justify the markup somehow.
fake manual is fucking weird, but im almost not against making the cars louder somehow for pedestrian safety.
Thesis: Cars contribute to noise pollution which takes year out of people's lives, so they should be more quiet.
Antithesis: Cars that are silent lead to more pedestrian accidents because pedestrians no longer have an audio warning that a car is nearby.
Synthesis: Cars are a menace to public safety and should be gotten rid of.
sorry, i didnt mean louder than gas cars are, just meant louder than an EV. They can be quiet as fuck.
This is something where I think we could set a standard "engine noise" that is loud enough for safety but doesn't carry into people's bedrooms and it would be a positive for society with no downsides whatsoever - which is why it will never happen.
it would be a positive for society with no downsides whatsoever - which is why it will never happen.
ok now, come on, automobile safety standards have absolutely improved. that is a positive with no downsides. "Humanity never does anything worthwhile for iteself" is certainly a take.
yes, they've improved for the people driving them. for the rest of us, however,, they've gotten worse.
I was being cheeky. While our society is objectively less capable of doing good things than it was in previous generations, it is still capable of doing those things from time to time.
all good, cheeky and hyperbole can be tough tell apart on this magic box
I'd prefer cars make some kind of sound while they're driving to alert visually impaired people. I hate how most EVs are dead quiet. I'm a cyclist and several times an EV has passed too closely to me without a sound.
EVs should make a little "ahem" cough when they are coming within 2m of a bicycle or pedestrian
Apparently tire noise is far louder than engine noise even at moderate speed (with the exception of loud-ass motorcycles and such), so equivalent artificial noise for EVs shouldn't make that problem worse
My brain has been cared. I'm stuck in a shit city with shit infrastructure. Anyways I recently for the first time in my life bought a "new" (3 year old used) car. It's a 1.4L turboed sedan that is ridiculously quiet that I do not know if it is running half the time. Some fake engine noise could be beneficial for boomers like me who've been driving shit boxes for 20 years.
That said it's also manual cause I enjoy it, makes me feel more in control and have been driving stick all my life. But the shit so computerized and fly-by-wire that there's no feedback in the stick, the clutch pedal is fully dead and feels more like a switch than a pedal, the anti roll back, the electronic e-brake, the lockouts for shifting wrong, and the insane gearing ratio that has me doing 70km/hr in 6th gear.... it may as well be an automatic.
I hope I can get one more non-ev in my lifetime. :grillman:
comrade, im doomerpilled for anything beyond this weekend
I mean manuals are awesome. But fake ones are just weird as hell and trash.
I'm pretty sure you could just make it real, even in an electric car. I know that the formula E cars have gearboxes
the rimac concept car had a 2-speed to get higher top speeds but normal people driving certainly don't need that and racing heads should find an alternative to ruining tires
I mean if it's going to be an enthusiast car, it will have a ton of features that most buyers will never use. How many people have taken their Ferraris and Lamborghinis to the racetrack? That's why I don't understand Toyota putting fake stuff on an enthusiast product. It just makes everyone angry.
higher percentage of supras probably see a track day than ferraris and lambos. bunch of rich fucks who should get the wall buy cars because "that's what you do" when you're rich and don't drive them at all.
At least Leno has a youtube channel.
This shit is so stupid. Heard about it awhile back. From the sound of it, it's especially to appease euros who don't have as many automatics.
