...Unless I hear very good word of mouth about a specific candidate.

I just decided "You know what? Fuck em'." to basically the whole party and will now only vote for 3rd party candidates and on measures and whatnot.

If there's a position with only people with D's and R's next to their names running for it, I'm leaving it blank.

I know I'm just one guy, and as such it won't really change anything, but it's nice to be honest with myself at least.

  • SirLotsaLocks [he/him]
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    its actually how wild my opinon changed over them in the course of this year, in the beginning I was down with them looking at sanders or yang, then they bent over backwards to keep bloomberg on, then they did everything to kick sanders off, then I found this community and learned just how fucked up the democrats are and how they really do not have our best interests at heart, then biden started criticizing the riots like damn im done

    /e it might be good to know that before this year I was a total lib

    • SimAnt [any]
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      I've had essentially the same journey this year. Super Tuesday and the CARES debacle really cemented my radicalization.

    • Gay_Wrath [fae/faer]
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      Same, i was gonna "vote blue no matter who" after the primaries before i found chapo. I even voted for Hillary in 2016 uwu flog me daddy

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    the democratic party must be destroyed in favor of a working class party

  • artangels [he/him]
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    im mainly just voting so i can vote against prop 22 in california to be honest. fuck the rest of the noise.

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    It's your choice obviously but personally, I disagree. I live in a deeply red state (TN), so it's unreasonable to expect good progressive candidates because it's hard to argue that such people would have any kind of chance here. Meanwhile, one of the biggest faults of Democrats is foreign policy, which isn't an issue in most local races. If Joe Biden was running for state senate of TN on the platform of supporting Medicaid expansion, I wouldn't really have a problem voting for him. If some centrist lib manages to find some magic formula to keep a seat out of far-right hands, then more power to 'em, and I ain't gonna talk shit because I certainly don't know how to make that magic formula work.

    More generally, Americans (myself included) have a tendency to see every local race as a micro version of the presidential race, because the latter gets so much more coverage and attention. It's kind of a bad habit because our national politics are always such shit, and because it's not true. Like, Republicans in congress are more than happy to stonewall anything and everything and have zero interest in negotiation, so any sort of compromise is a wasted effort, and their constituants are perfectly fine with that. But that might not be the case in every local government, where people may have different priorities. That's not to say that compromise is good or that running on comprimise doesn't give up a ton of bargaining power - it's just one example of how things can be different at the local level.

    Yeah, yeah, I'm a lib, I know.

  • JucheSanders [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I’m mainly voting because we have ballot measures to decriminalize drugs and legalize psilocybins

    • budoguytenkaichi [he/him,they/them]
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      Gloria La Riva for prez, don't know about anyone else.

      If there's PSL or Green candidates running for anything else, they got my vote.

          • EugeneDebs [he/him]
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            lol, imagine THAT confirmation hearing:

            "Senator, yes I flew with Epstein to his island, but I never went there without my wife. And yes, I stand by my constitutional (not moral) argument that the age of consent should be lowered to 16 (perhaps even 15 or 14)"

          • joshuaism [he/him]
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            I didn't realize there was a big enough woke libertarian contingent to nominate a woman over the age of consent like Jerkinsum. But mostly I was interested in OPs thoughts on downballot libertarians since in my neck of the woods they are more libertarians running than Greens or socialists.

            • crime [she/her, any]
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              4 years ago

              I wouldn't support ancaps except maybe for that one satanist trans woman in New Hampshire who won her primary for sheriff on a platform of "disband the police". Critical support for any like that, I guess

            • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]
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              4 years ago

              Libertarianism tends to be a collecting pool for people who are disgruntled by the status quo. It offers the promise of a utopia where all of the evils perpetrated by the state simply disappear in a puff of smoke. "Fuck the government, maximum freedom?" Sounds like a good pitch to me.

              The problem is, people get stuck there if they don't do any further research, and it is fertile soil for right wing recruitment. I dabbled with libertarianism around 2012 after becoming disappointed with Obama. At the time, they were the loudest voices shitting on the wars and the surveillance state. It eventually became clear that the libertarian movement as a whole meant voting for right wing cranks though, so that phase was very short-lived for me.

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    theres a succ dem i can vote for so i guess im gonna go in and vote on the dem ballot there. otherwise i'm voting green here in america and voting for the communists in czechia. i think its important to still check ballot info to see if anyone rad is running near you, electoralism is useful as a radicalization process.

      • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]
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        Why bother trying to radicalize libs when you can talk to working class people

        There are a significant number of working class libs. They don't exhibit the r/politics brand of pathology, but liberalism is the default ideology in this country. It is what our public education system spends twelve years pounding into our skulls, then what the mass media spends the rest of our lives reinforcing. No one is advocating getting Bret Stephens on our side.

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    Before I downvote you, are you in a red district or a blue district? Also, does AOC meet your "very good word of mouth" criteria or does the struggle sesh mean she's sus?

    Edit: I'll take your answer in the DMs if you have valid concerns of being cancelled.