"This whole saga makes me genuinely embarrassed to follow this stuff. I just want a sub that has an informed opinion on AI, this is worse than crypto bro bullshit."

"Every hype-man who posts vague tweets and hype posts should be ridiculed. Every clown who posts screenshots of said tweets on this sub should be ridiculed."

""AGI is coming out next year" - this sub for the last 4 years"

some self aware highlights.

  • PKMKII [none/use name]
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    I hadn’t put it together before but it completely makes sense that singularity believers would easily fall for AI hype.

    • dinklesplein [any, he/him]
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      yeah, iirc the first step to singularity or at least what causes it is an ASI so we have this community of dweebs thinking that that'll solve everything and not, like, communism, which probably won't solve everything but certainly more than whatever the fuck llms are doing.

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          • PKMKII [none/use name]
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            Wow that is a tier of “missing the point the movie was making” previously thought only theoretically possible.

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      • VILenin [he/him]
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        Gonna have to wait a long time now that every startup grift and zombie legacy company has redefined AI to mean “computer does stuff” and declared victory. At least, if the billboards on the 101 I see on the way to SFO are any indication - Salesforce will use “AI” to increase your “productivity”. What does that mean? It means give us your money, chumps.

        Not that AI robot slave girlfriends were ever happening in any case; obviously everyone in /r/singularity is competing for the title of most scientifically illiterate person alive and has no clue how the brain - or anything, really - works.

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  • Mardoniush [she/her]
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    It's incredible watching them slowly realise that they bet their hopes for utopia on a slightly more annoying customer service chatbot.

    As someone who once was a transhumanist (back when there were still Socialists in the community) I almost feel bad for them. Almost. A lot of them are young and haven't yet realised that hope from tech alone is always, always hollow. What they do with that knowledge...well...I got better, but I was always communist.

    • dinklesplein [any, he/him]
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      OAI staggering releases to make GPT-4 look like it was faster than it actually was was a genius marketing move but they haven't done anything interesting for near two years now.

    • Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de
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      4 months ago

      Tbf, at least tech is real and observable so putting hope in science is better than putting it in fairytales forced on western civilization through extreme violence by the Roman Empire and other means of settler colonialism.

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        • Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de
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          Oof, touché. I consider myself more agnostic than atheist, but I suppose I was a little too harsh. I just get frustrated with religion when Christians tell me that climate change doesn't matter because "the world has to end for Jesus to come back." Allowing the world to end feels too much like a death cult. Otherwise, I have no problem with religious people who don't try to force their religion into politics and on others.

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  • kristina [she/her]
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    i mean theyre cultists so

    the leap from 'cute statistics engine that is basically an elaborate and flawed google search' to 'thinking robot girlfriend that worships me' is huge and they keep acting like its trivial

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          • 🏳️‍⚧️ 新星 [she/they]@lemmygrad.ml
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            4 months ago

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                    ⚠️ ATTENTION: ⚠️

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    • Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de
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      Humans have been dreaming about finding the secret to immortality for thousands of years. It isn't possible and it isn't happening in our life time. With how critically underfunded scientific research is, at best scientists may find a way to slow down the aging process by 5 to 10% each generation.

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      • Nacarbac [any]
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        Yeah, it just isn't happening without a massive cooperative effort over generations. Not just the time for each generation of volunteers to be monitored, but also the work needed to address age-related entropy that isn't purely "lifespan" - no point splicing yourself into tortoise-person if you spend the next three hundred years as Joe Biden.

        That's a selfless undertaking for tens of thousands who will never see the benefits and might suffer some real nasty side effects. Leaving aside whether or not it should be done in the first place, it's just not compatible with the Rich Man Afraid of Hypothetical Screaming Void impulse which drives modern life extension nowadays.

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        I disagree that it's impossible but agree that it's not gonna happen by stuffing ourselves with microprocessors

  • hypercracker
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    4 months ago

    Their idiot eschatology community has now reached the development level of having false prophets. What exciting places will they go from here?

  • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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    4 months ago

    strawberry man used the hype by pretending to be an insider and making claims that strawberry is coming very soon and will completely change everything

    Lol people still fall for the “my dad works for nintendo” bit when no other independent source can verify the claim?

    • Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de
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      4 months ago

      Lol people still fall for the “my dad works for nintendo” bit when no other independent source can verify the claim?

      It is just as embarrassing as the people who buy into "insider political leaks." Unnamed, unverifiable sources are almost always fabricated

      • PKMKII [none/use name]
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        4 months ago

        Not necessarily. Often it’s coming from a real source, it’s that if the source was known it’d be blatantly obvious the “leak” isn’t juicy truths TPTB are trying to keep from us but rather blatant propaganda from TPTB are pushing to manufacture consent.

        • Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de
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          4 months ago

          I don't follow. Half-truths are lies in my book so it sounds like we agree that those claims are largely fabrications aimed to stir up drama (increase engagement) or deceive us (manufacture consent)

          Either way, it shouldn't be legal for any journalist to try to pass off unverifiable gossip as legitimate News.

          • PKMKII [none/use name]
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            4 months ago

            I interpreted your original comment to mean “the journalist made up the leak.” I’m guessing from your response that you meant the insider source pulled it out of their ass.

            • Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de
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              I think it is a mix of both. Insiders exaggerating or making stuff up and journalists also exaggerating or straight up lying about having a source when they don't.

      • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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        Depends on the nature of political leaks. A lot are deliberately leaked to control the narrative. For example, leaks about Biden “being furious” with Netanyahu is just to appeal to west wing brained liberals. Or how “anonymous sources revealed” to MSM that “Ukrainians” were behind the Nordstream bombing. In the latter case, they admit it was sabotage, but want a different narrative around it.

        • Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de
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          4 months ago

          Does anyone truly believe that Ukraine destroyed NS2 on their own? Biden told the whole world he was going to "bring and end to it" if Russia invaded Ukraine and that is exactly what he did: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OS4O8rGRLf8&t=90 "How will you stop NS2, it belongs to Germany?" "I promise you we WILL do it"

  • Tabitha ☢️[she/her]
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    4 months ago

    I can't be the only person who has never heard of strawberry man before this, and still have no idea what happened after reading that thread.

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