Where they spend 5 minutes talking about the political news. Than spend an hour plus dissecting some shit movie/show no one cares about.

  • cpfhornet [she/her,comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    Literally the least interesting podcast I'm still subscribed to. How do they really look around at the world right now and discuss almost nothing but frivolous bullshit? There are real struggles going on every week and yet I hear nothing from Chapo.

    • star_wraith [he/him]
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      They weren't built for what's going on now. I kinda got away from them after they went on near-complete radio silence on the BLM protests this year, but I've gotten back in recently. Because I've just accepted them for what they are... they like to joke about what's going on and be mostly unserious about it. I think that's their wheelhouse and what they're comfortable with. They don't handle serious things very well and recently shit has gotten serious. And that's more or less fine I guess, not everyone can be Rev Left. But yeah, I just take them less seriously, they aren't at the top of the queue anymore.

      That said I do want to hear what they have to about Trump getting COVID, because that shit's funny and is a bit fat one hanging over the plate for the Chapos.

      • PermaculturalMarxist [they/them]
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        4 years ago

        I think it's ironic that one of the first episodes after Bernie lost was on Jon Stewart's movie Irresistible and the biggest theme was how all satirical leftist pundit types eventually become irrelevant.

    • Katieushka [they/them,she/her]
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      4 years ago

      yeah that's the beauty of it. and also every major political event happens right after tuesday?? what tf is it a conspiracy? im not gonna pay your patreon just to know what you think about trump getting covid.

      • Papanurgel [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        Well since Bernie dropped out every patreon episode has been a movie review our some interview with some hollywood lefty.

      • cpfhornet [she/her,comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        More than that, who the fuck cares anymore about any of the intra-DNC/RNC/pol-media figure cat-fights, like seriously I get that they're electoralists but for fucks sake, the world is burning, people are in the streets STILL everywhere, I don't give a fuck about a bunch of pundits.

        • Katieushka [they/them,she/her]
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          4 years ago

          i do look forward to the next episode of virgil saying that having kids is bad unless it's a fetish, and everyone talking over amber.

      • cpfhornet [she/her,comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        Rev Left Radio - essential overall

        Red Menace - essential theory

        The Red Nation Podcast - Much needed indigenous voices for socialism and liberation.

        Liberation Audio - Good analysis of day-day news events, produced by the PSL.

        Trillbillies Worker Party - Your most direct Chapo replacement, they're pretty damn good

        Its Not Just In Your Head - A much needed emotional/psychological assessment from licensed therapists

        Cosmopod - Pretty good historical content as well as analysis, though obviously from a very specific party lens.

        Nostalgia Trap - Pretty good interviews with academics who aren't that liberal, and quite a bit of good media analysis.

        • LeninWalksTheWorld [any]
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          4 years ago

          Beep Beep lettuce is pretty good for Chapo style rifts without having to listen to Brooklyn boy Will Meneker

          • cpfhornet [she/her,comrade/them]
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            4 years ago

            Thanks! Its hard watching the podcasts that really started the boom in the platform veer off into frivolous punditry. I can only hope that the podcasts that have grown out of the huge holes of needed commentary missed by the name-brand podcasts today maintain their energy and revolutionary voice.

        • cornbeansquash [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Idk if anybody’s said this yet but add Citations Needed to the list. They’re fantastic

      • cpfhornet [she/her,comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        If that's true then its a psy op that helped bring me to being an ML lol; a podcast that led us here, omg have I been COINTELPRO'd? :shocked-pikachu:

        • Papanurgel [none/use name]
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          In all honesty. It's cuz will sucks ass. His wau more interested in talking about movies than the current state of trying to figure a way to mobilize people.

              • cpfhornet [she/her,comrade/them]
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                4 years ago

                Eh, he can be a little too left-com for me, but he's certainly well informed historically, I just feel like he's a bit too nihilistic about the capabilities of proletarian movements of today

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                  4 years ago

                  His nihlism is becuase he studies history. I have the same problem. You end up realizing that human society never corrects before disasters even if they know it's coming.

                  • PermaculturalMarxist [they/them]
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                    4 years ago

                    Plenty of people study history and don't become so nihilistic so I don't think it's just that. I find it hard to imagine Christman in an organiser context, which reminds me of a lot of my academic left-comm type friends who are super well read but just intractably cynical.

                    • cpfhornet [she/her,comrade/them]
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                      4 years ago

                      Totally agree. Its the form of Marxism you'll find in academies and universities, one detoothed of real power.

                      • jabrd [he/him]
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                        4 years ago

                        To be fair academics are innately detoothed of power because of their class position

                        • cpfhornet [she/her,comrade/them]
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                          4 years ago

                          We shouldn't forget that a lot of the real work in Universities isn't done just by the tenured professors. Sure, they are the ones that set the overall class position of the university's teachings and the direction of research (and get all the glory), but the actual ground work of propagating that ideology to the student body and out to the world is through exploited graduate students and forever-associate professorships, who are only usually boosted to tenure if they are willing to continue the work and ideology of the currently tenured. Which is why organizing university labor is definitely something that should be a goal for any movement looking to capture an ideological foothold

                  • cpfhornet [she/her,comrade/them]
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                    4 years ago

                    Yes, but out of these disasters people still remain, and these people are left to pick up the pieces or start anew. Whether or not there will even be a humanity to progress through 100 years from now is debatable but also irrelevant. If we're not organizing and treating situations like there's even a chance for rebuilding then we're only cementing our doom and forever subjugation. This applies even in the face of climate disaster and the fascist scramble that resulted from it. Any voice telling everyone that its already doomed is essentially confirming the suspicions of reactionary christians who are merely awaiting rapture. The entire point of our movement is getting people to realize that we need to act, and be an active and cooperative people if we have any chance of making it through the next couple centuries. Saying we're fucked now is just giving up. Yes, its scary and looks very bleak, but what good is defeatism of the very movements we support?

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    4 years ago

    Pretty much. It hasn't been fun listening in a while. Even trueanon is getting a little out there.

    • cpfhornet [she/her,comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      Struggle sessions are fittingly well named because answers to them take a long damn time to disperse among the population of people. I think the debate has certainly advanced to the point where no one is really gonna defend the podcast, but that doesn't mean casting it aside is any easier as it was the entrance to radicalization for many of us.

  • ItsPequod [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I'll take some shit movie/show any day, that ep a few weeks back that was just them looking at their twitter profiles was the real shit that made me reconsider how much I listen to the pod