let’s write our own constitution and militarize our own police force. everyone commence the long march to the soon to be announced GPS coordinates
9000 members is enough to legally incorporate in texas i think
Me either. But I literally can't escape this hell country because I'm not a STEM lord who can get a job anywhere.
we will make our own backyard furnaces, kill all pigeons, and eat hot chip
I'm still going. I want to make medicine, like extracting salicylic acid and digitoxin from plants grown in the area.
It went great with that libertarian town in New Hampshire.
When libertarians did this, they had a bear problem.
I think bears would be on our side because of our logo.
Some of you fuckers would 100% feed the bears. Probably the furries and/or the vegans. I'm out.
I've considered something like this, and I'd like to offer some pros and cons.
Pros
- You actually get your own people elected
- Want a policy implemented? Probably you can do it
- A well-organized community defense that's set up early could be effective against counterintelligence and also stand as a useful example of what the left actually wants when it says "abolish the police"
- Since profit is not the main goal of the city, a lot of transactions can be tax exempt, greatly reducing your need to financially support US imperialism
- The civil rights act prevents many kinds of employment discrimination. Political orientation is not a protected class, so you can most likely keep your city as free from capitalist infiltrators as you please
- A sufficiently large city of anti-capitalists could influence nearby elections by encouraging residents to rent in swing districts, potentially negating gerrymandering in that state (you would need a LOT of people for this to work)
- The city acts as its own advertising. Anything that goes right is its own argument for your governing style
Cons
- The city acts as its own advertising. Anything that goes wrong is its own argument against your governing style
- Obviously, not all of the users on this site are US residents
- While cities mostly get to make their own rules, different states have laws that limit what laws a city is allowed to pass. Even if you find loopholes, generally nothing is stopping the state from closing them
- For the greatest chance at gaining control of the city, you must pick a small town that has next to no infrastructure
- Small towns tend not to be in economically advantageous locations
- If you get any kind of traction you will be targeted for harassment and/or assassination by the FBI. If you got national attention, the national guard could even go after you. Corporations most likely would make your life difficult.
- While cities and non-profit organizations do get certain tax advantages, employed individuals still have to pay income taxes
- Cities are not allowed to print money like the federal government. Combined with federal taxes, the net effect is an outflow of dollars from the local economy that must be offset by exports to a market that has a consistent supply of USD (not necessarily exports to a foreign country). It's just a lot easier to organize an economy how you want when you also have control over your own currency.
Edit: With the amount of people you would need to make a highly functioning economy with people who are apparently willing to move to a random city in the US, you might as well try to take over a larger city that already has infrastructure. Unfortunately, this also means that you will have a hard time actually getting elected as the city's political machine will be set against you from the start.
Small note, cities are allowed to print money. Local currencies are used all over the US.
Interesting, I did not know that. My point about printing money was moreso about both printing and taxing the currency. AFAIK, income in the form of a local currency would still be subject to US federal taxes, meaning that holders would need to exchange their currency with USD in order to pay income taxes to the federal government. Thus, the city still needs to export something from the local economy just so they don't drain money. If that were not required, then cities would only need to export in order to balance imports.
Maine has a lot of unincorporated territories and is also small enough that you can still get somewhere as long as you have a working car.
Just also understand that you will be settling new land. Settler colonialism to own the libs and chuds.
Like any Canadians want to come down that covid filled hell hole you guys call a country, no socialized medicine and you guys don't even have ketchup or all dressed chips, sure the beer and smokes are cheap but if I can't get my all dressed chips what's the fukkin point buds? Sort ya selves out.
You can find ketchup chips pretty easily in Maine because of the St John's Valley influence.
But PEI is where I'd go as a Canadian.
Isn't Maine getting filled up with New Yorkers right now due to covid? Michigan also doesn't seem too bad, and land appears to be fairly cheap.
Maine has fewer fascist militias than rural Michigan, a place commonly referred to as "gods country"
Vermont is where I'm seeing all the "I went to college here, so I'm back to buy a house" people.
Southern coastal Maine has been owned by out of staters for a while, now they're just contemplating staying there year round. Joke's on them when they realize they never insulated their summer home.
my thoughts exactly, that or we all just move to jackson mississippi and help out their coop thing
We should take over a wildlife refuge visitor center. Libs will mail us boxes of dildos and we'll be able to go on cool nature sightseeing walks. Its win-win.
It'd probably go down like how they did in that nutball, David Koresh.
The upside: 20 years from now it would make a totally acceptable AMC mini-series.
that guy sucked but what they did was pretty egregious. Also that mini-series sucked.
Just curious, are you familiar with Cooperation Jackson at all? They're basically doing this very thing in Jackson, MS.
Or we could start similar projects all over the
countryworld and form a confederation...yeah but you need to develop resources, both human and capital, in order to do that. it seems like jackson cooperatives are actually growing substantially and as their financial base grows they can seed cooperatives elsewhere to contribute to their economy. it’s like they are literally building a parallel economy
