In countries where it is not a crime, is it no longer child abuse to beat your kid? Is this just arguing purely about the term or are you being serious with using the law to determine morality in child rearing?
Would you be fine if I used a different term for this behavior, like "emotionally hurtful behavior towards a child that has the risk of leaving long term unhealthy patterns of behavior towards food and trust in parental figures" or some similar explicitly non legal accusation, would that be fine with you?
I still maintain that it crosses from bad teaching method into abusive when it crosses from "Telling your daughter to go away and learn how to use a can opener because you have a jigsaw puzzle" into "Forcing your daughter to learn on her own how to use a can opener while you tell stories about how great you are at opening cans with all manner of tools, and when she tries to abandon it you tell her she must do it or she doesnt get to eat and also she will be responsible for you not eating tonight either"
At that point its putting a lot of emotional pressure on a 9 year old who cant just tell you to fuck off and throw the can at your head, or go to the fridge and just grab something, a 9 year old doesnt have the emotional maturity or confidence to actually resist things like this from a parent, and having that powerlessness demonstrated with threatening to withhold food from them when they have been hungry for at least a few hours already is something that can and probably will stick somewhere in the childs mind, either as a learned behavior towards authority or as a point of resentment.
In countries where it is not a crime, is it no longer child abuse to beat your kid? Is this just arguing purely about the term or are you being serious with using the law to determine morality in child rearing?
I’m not talking about morality at all.
You are making legal accusations. I’m telling you to cool it and get some perspective.
Would you be fine if I used a different term for this behavior, like "emotionally hurtful behavior towards a child that has the risk of leaving long term unhealthy patterns of behavior towards food and trust in parental figures" or some similar explicitly non legal accusation, would that be fine with you?
That would be better, but still a little overkill for the actual events described, which are basically just bad teaching methods and being obnoxious
I still maintain that it crosses from bad teaching method into abusive when it crosses from "Telling your daughter to go away and learn how to use a can opener because you have a jigsaw puzzle" into "Forcing your daughter to learn on her own how to use a can opener while you tell stories about how great you are at opening cans with all manner of tools, and when she tries to abandon it you tell her she must do it or she doesnt get to eat and also she will be responsible for you not eating tonight either"
At that point its putting a lot of emotional pressure on a 9 year old who cant just tell you to fuck off and throw the can at your head, or go to the fridge and just grab something, a 9 year old doesnt have the emotional maturity or confidence to actually resist things like this from a parent, and having that powerlessness demonstrated with threatening to withhold food from them when they have been hungry for at least a few hours already is something that can and probably will stick somewhere in the childs mind, either as a learned behavior towards authority or as a point of resentment.