These will continue until you motherfuckers get the point. Hit me with some bullshit.
Imagine being able to use an explicitly socialist forum without having to worry about nonsense cis/white fragilities
haha what if we renamed the website Karen Chat to make the Karens self conscious...no it wouldn't work, they feel no shame
Genuinely disappointed to hear that this is still a problem here for my trans comrades.
Me reading the modlog (For further examples exclusively look at comments) :agony-deep:
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What if I said I don’t care about your gender or even if you are trans, I just want working class emancipation and if that includes individuals trying to become the gender they feel they are/are supposed to be, then it’s my duty as a comrade to support them. :trans-hammer-sickle:
I know that this comes from a good place, but even if socialism could be achieved tomorrow, transphobia and other forms of bigotry would still exist. We have to actively oppose and root out transphobia, both in wider society, and especially in our own communities.
Opposition to and the eradication of transphobia should absolutely be part of any program for workers emancipation, but we shouldn't make the mistake of thinking that such a program would, itself, stomp out transphobia.
You’re absolutely correct. I don’t mean to sound like I don’t want transphobia squashed out. Transphobs are reactionaries that don’t serve a place in the revolution. I don’t mean to come off rude or unsupportive. Just makes me mad that people are concerned with how other want to express themselves.
Liberation must come with the destruction of every intersectional axis of oppression. You cannot emancipate a class if members of it are still oppressed by other mechanisms.
If many of these means of oppression are rooted in capitalism and the reactionary nature of it, wouldn’t the over throw of capitalism help to eliminate them? I’m sure they go hand in hand, but it’s worth to think about.
The overthrow of capitalism is a necessary condition for liberation but it is not the only condition necessary.
I guess my understanding is that all of these issues are rooted deeply in the inherent inequality and contradictions within capitalism, and by the overthrow of it many of these contradictions will die away on their own. But of course that’s why things like a vanguard party exists to stamp it out where it is found as well.
wow i dont c why it is necessary to single out cis people and no i don't understand how all lives matters could possibly be related
I thought/hoped the 'all lives matter' bit was enough of a sign post
with the amount of CHUD shit we've seen this week it wouldnt be surprising to see an unironic all lives matter user lol
you good tho
When did the transphobia start? I've been on this forum for awhile, and awhile back it seemed to be pretty trans positive. Is this just something that happened in the last few months?
Does nobody remember how bad the pronoun struggle session was? I was literally told "The only good tr%nny is a dead tr%nny" for daring to suggest that people click a button to have solidarity with trans people.
its not even necessarily solidarity with trans people! choosing pronouns helps get rid of the internet default assumed-masculine assumption, and neutralizes that aspect of privilege/seediness. and also there are like five 'id rather stay anonymous' options.
I must've not seen that thread, I only go on the site once every once in awhile. I was just wondering if the increase in transphobia came in waves or if it was always present.
I do not remember that at all
I remember it being kinda buggy, the hen got fixed and more options added
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Then people were reminded that we don't want to out people by making them display pronouns
It's when i stopped really posting here, mostly because it was no longer legal to have fun anymore and the people who said they were pro fun just wanted to keep fetishizing trans people without actually caring about them and iranian morality cops aka volcel police
Been staying out of this cos I don't exactly feel I have much to add but yeah I remember that and remember how bad it got. Sorry to see u go. Honestly the transphobic stuff isnt just pushing away trans ppl, not that Im saying it should be taken more seriously cos cis (that the right terminology I hope) ppl are also throwing in the towel. Classic abusive behaviour from what I have seen. Keep all the nasty stuff private as possible and wait for the victim to blow up in public. Disgusting.
its been going on for a while but us mods try and delete it whenever it gets reported. The reason trans comrades are leaving is because they obviously see it before its deleted since they are the target of it and get it directly in their inbox. You can check the modlogs to see what we are dealing with. If you see anything please report!
Is there a way for mods to hardware ban people? Make being a piece of shit expensive.
but what about all the chapos that browse at the public library!?
How feasible even is that?
Even fingerprinting has work arounds. Banning vpn's would not be great for obvious reasons
most people would wait till their last day to throw this kind of fit lol
Yeah.
By the way, sorry for asking this since i know nothing about admin stuff or admin stuff relating to this sub but, can you like, remove registrations for like a week or so? Is that doable in chapochat?
Maybe it has already been discussed and agreed it's a bad idea, but i think it could be useful. Specially if it's not announced. (But i guess that would also cause a shitstorm).
We could but that doesn't solve the inherent problem within the community. I'm cleaning shop and not giving a single fuck. Hopefully I'll set an example for how to run this shit going forward before I fuck off.
Sure, but it would annoy the guys who come back after you ban them. Ban evasion and all that.
Anyway, i'm not going to tell you how to do your job. You have my full support.
I just hope the mod team takes my example and learns to not be so light on bans going forward. What does 3 day ban mean to someone who has said transphobic shit amongst a website full of cis dudes? It means nothing. It's a slap on the wrist to them and a slap in the face us.
site needs to grow
our growth has been stifled and probably even torn down because of all the raids and wreckers
its a problem and we've been discussing on how to limit newly created accounts internally. hopefully we resolve it soon
At some point, one would hope they realize there's better things they could be doing.
"Hey admin, time to ban my 652th account".
"Yes, asshole". :yes-honey-left:
Day 0 of the ban: most people would wait till their last day to throw this kind of fit lol
Day 2 of the ban: MODS ARE OUT OF CONTROL THIS IS MY TENTH ACCOUNT ELECTIONS.NOW
Day 5 of the ban: incoherent screaming
Day 12 of the ban: yeah so those chapo.chat people are nuts, don't you agree /r/stupidpol
