They didn't even call witnesses.
What the fuck was the point of this?
Round of applause for the dems yet again wasting more time and money that could have helped the people LITERALLY dying on the streets right now folks!
this is clearly part of their strategy to lose the midterms and go back to being the opposition party
Makes the most sense. Being the opposition party makes them the most money too.
and they always have the moral high ground and dont have to worry about passing policies that make their bourgeouis masters angry
Yeah and they can't govern to begin with. So Mr. Trump welcome back in 2024.
I honestly don't think so. Repubs of the establishment don't want him back. Last go around they thought the could wield Trump's nomination into what they wanted, but he was too unpredictable and unmanageable.
They only let him slide on the way out because no one goes punished in DC and no one wants to die on that hill-- they gain nothing by doing so. Just wag your finger at the white supremacy while sneaking Trump quietly out the emergency exit.
Even the conservatives want a "return to normal" Mitt Romney type so war crimes can be cool and normal again where the public is actively disengaged-- because the "normal" President has a dollap of cooth to drop a few rehersed one-liners on Ellen and Jimmy Fallon
Last go around they thought the could wield Trump’s nomination into what they wanted, but he was too unpredictable and unmanageable.
They got a tax cut for the rich and a shitload of federal judges; definitely some stuff I'm forgetting, too. There are even those reports about how after Trump fucked up enough foreign meddling the intelligence state just started giving him bad information. And of course this all culminated in a conservative Democrat in the White House who's eager to work with the GOP.
They got a huge amount out of the Trump presidency, and they're smart enough to know he's the strongest candidate they have going into 2024. They want to win above everything else, so that beats wish list items like having a candidate you can take home to mom, or a candidate that doesn't need handlers. The only question is whether Trump will want to run again at 78.
Trump Is a fat man that only eats McDonalds. He has at best a 50% chance of being mentally well enough/alive in 2024.
Mentally well enough is no obstacle, and terrible people live forever.
problem is he’ll have a gun to their head. “support me as the Republican candidate or I’ll drop out before the deadline, run third party, and guarantee a democratic supermajority.” hasn’t he already thrown out the idea of the ‘Patriot Party’?
The establishment didn't want him to begin with. The difference now is he has even more traction because more Republican politicians are scared of going against Trump. It comes down to the voting base which still overwhelmingly loves Trump.
They will either run him again or find someone worse. Even the libs had a sinking feeling on election night when it was such a closely contested election, it proved that Trump is still a very viable platform for US politics. The capitol riot then made them realize that they can't just vote him away. He still exists whether he is president or not because his voters still exist.
Whether or not he runs again in four years will be interesting. I do think if he were to run again and lose, it would cause a breakup and reformation of the Republican party. If they win regardless whether it's Trump or not... oh boy. The key problem the Dem's have is that they literally put their worst foot forward with Biden. He needs an FDR level presidency in order to impress people enough to vote for him again.
The problem is liberals think their mere existence in the presence of conservatives is enough to merit them winning elections, because their strategy isn't about trying to make sweeping reforms that excite and please people. It is about just winning and holding office so Republicans can't, and curiously when they win, they think they couldn't possibly lose in the future. They just end up being seatwarmers. But then again, that is probably the idea.
What are they gonna do if he threatens to run as third party if they don’t let him into the GOP primary at least?
We're talking about voting here friend. It's performative and pointless
You do realize it's literally impossible to vote for her in many states?
Vote for literally anyone other than the fash. Even if voting is performative, performing fascism is bad.
I wrote in "The Girl Reading This" for an unopposed local position this past year might up that to pres next time.
Both are pointless and have the exact same effect, why does it matter which one I do
Dude this is an astronomically bad take. Like, it's so bad you can probably see it orbiting jupiter on a clear night
Listen here, Jack, we'll get him in that 2024 impeachment trial 😎
Honestly I’m starting to think the point was to get people to forget about the 2k the Dems promised to send immediately
IT WAS AN IMPEACHMENT TRIAL! 😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣 IT WAS AN IMPEACHMENT TRIAL!🤣🤣🤣😂 IT WAS AN IMPEACHMENT TRIAL, THE WHOLE REASON- LITERALLY IT WAS AN IMPEACHMENT TRIAL 😂😂😂😂 IT WAS CALLED AN IMPEACHMENT TRIAL, 😂 AND WE WOULD TRAVEL TO THE IMPEACHMENT TRIAL, 😂 AND THERE WERE JOURNALISTS THERE COVERING THE IMPEACHMENT TRIAL, 🤣 WHERE THERE WOULD BE AN IMPEACHMENT TRIAL 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Well I’m sure it certainly gave msm something to talk about other than shit that actual effects us
Allegedly it's that they don't want to waste time on this when they could get some stuff done. Democrats realized that Republicans only want witnesses to push this as long as possible and have a de facto delay on covid relief and stuff, and Democrats decided to cut their losses and have no witnesses on either side.
Do the Dems just literally have no one thinking 2-3 moves ahead? Like that seems like the kinda thing that is totally predictable and they should have planned around that.
I hate this shit. I really wanted to see some consequences just to possibly protect posterity slightly from more right-wing authoritian bullshit. Apparently we can’t even get that.
I worry immensely about the future. I’m already linked up with my local anti-fascist organization, so at least I can say I did everything I could
I’d rather deal with Neoliberal Democrats than more fascists in the future, but I’m worried very deeply. I’m not a class reductionist type, this shit scares me, as it should all leftists.
Democrats refused to poop on bill
And here we are 2 decades later with broken politics
Bill Clinton was neoliberal wet dream. We needed someone like Bernie desperately back then instead of ol Billy.
He’s partially to blame along with Reagan and all the other slime balls.
Is there a good leftist rundown of why Bill was awful somewhere? I’ve been so fixated on Obama that I forgot the other lib darling my family idolizes.
I think one of the best critiques of Bill’s “Welfare to Work” was in Bowling for Columbine.
Kayla Rolland was killed by a six-year-old male first grader at Buell Elementary School in the Beecher Community School District, located in Mount Morris Township, Michigan near Flint. His father, Dedric Owens, was in jail for violating his parole, having previously been convicted for possession of cocaine with intent to deliver and burglary. The boy had been living with his mother, Tamarla, and his eight-year-old brother. She was evicted from her home, having been unable to pay rent with the $175 weekly wage she received from the two jobs she worked under Michigan's welfare-to-work program, and both boys then shared a single sofa as a bed at their uncle's house. The home, where his uncle lived with a 19-year-old man, was a crack house where guns were frequently traded for drugs. At some point, the child found a loaded Davis Industries P-32 .32-caliber handgun under some blankets.
Try this on for size https://monthlyreview.org/2001/04/01/neoliberalism-from-reagan-to-clinton/
Completely gutted the last vestiges of the welfare state from the New Deal, "welfare to work" programs, economic policies directly responsible for the housing bubble that still continue today, austerity in the name of bipartisanship, "don't ask don't tell", and the "defense of marriage act" is a pretty good top level list
The Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act 🤮 was a cornerstone of the Republican Party's "Contract with America," and also fulfilled Clinton's campaign promise to "end welfare as we know it."
Im sure I can find one. Really it was just standard Neoliberal shit, moving the democrats further away from real intersectional leftist idpol and further away from class politics towards a more business oriented capitalist mode.
This is one of the few good reasons to watch certain episodes of Jimmy Dore, because he has a laundry list of all the horrible shit the Clintons did while in power and he repeats it pretty often. Just DO NOT WATCH JIMMY FOR TOO LONG OR YOU WILL BECOME A TULCEL, and then we will obviously have to execute you after facing trial in a people's court.
For the history books. Waste of fucking time. Can they now vote to give me my money?
... Republican Party had been getting more intransigent in 2020s. The first warning bells rung when they refused to impeach trump (Trump the first, p. 350) for calling insurrection after losing an election (elections, p.348). After political impasse lasting for two years....
I mean, they weren’t wrong. This will go down in history as one in a long line of hemorrhages of the American empire.
I normally cringe at the dems but dear god this is painful. Like what kind of pleasure do they derive from chronic political (not to mention policy) failure?
Well, I'd like to see ol Donny Trump wiggle his way out of this jam!
Trump wiggles out easily
Ah, well, nevertheless
Good fucking lord I never noticed she had her mask on wrong in this. Jesus fuck.
It was clearly restricting her oxygen uptake. Just look at this video of how much trouble she had standing up!
:michael-laugh:
lol I just googled that and Pelosi once said it verbatim about preventing Bush from sending more troops to Iraq
she also said it about Trump when the democrats declined to impeach earlier in his presidency. it was, of course, followed by her doing nothing.
Wild guess: Hillary intervened behind the scenes because she wants to run in 2024 to slay her demons of the past. You heard it here first. :not-hillary:
Shes the type that would primary an incumbent VP
My guess is that Biden won't run again
My guess is that Biden won’t run again
There's also a good chance that by then you'll have president :top-cop:
Couldn't even get to Iowa
Gets picked by party to be President
Maximum liberal
Because it’s important to send a message that we stand for something, even if we don’t win!
Why yes I’m against FTV, why do you ask?
We need to a do a 50 state solution and strategically support Gavin Newsome for president!
