• douglasg14b@programming.dev
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    11 months ago

    I do feel like C# saw C++ and said "let's do that" in a way.

    One of the biggest selling points about the language is the long-term and cross repo/product/company..etc consistency. Largely the language will be very recognizable regardless of where it's written and by who it's written due to well established conventions.

    More and more ways to do the same thing but in slightly different ways is nice for the sake of choices but it's also making the language less consistent and portable.

    While at the same time important language features like discriminated unions are still missing. Things that other languages have started to build features for by default. C# is incredibly "clunky" in comparison to say Typescript solely from a type system perspective. The .Net ecosystem of course more than makes up for any of this difference, but it's definitely not as enjoyable to work with the language itself.

  • Corngood@lemmy.ml
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    11 months ago

    I'm sure a lot of work went into this, but it seems crazy that we need another way to initialise collections, and another way to make fixed sized arrays.

    I just want less boilerplate.

      • Corngood@lemmy.ml
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        11 months ago

        Look how clunky it is to add support on a collection. Take the example here:

        https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/language-reference/operators/collection-expressions#collection-builder

        It involves adding a new builder class, and they actually have to reference the function by string name.

        It's actually making me even more angry now that I look at it in detail.

        • Lucky@programming.dev
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          11 months ago

          This is for custom collections, right? And you don't even have to use it, you can keep using existing ctors for your custom collections

          Worse case scenario you keep doing what we've always had to do. But for the 99% of use cases we get a much more streamlined initializer, with extensions to use our own.

          I don't see how that's a bad thing

    • eluvatar@programming.dev
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      11 months ago

      I think for arrays it's not really a benefit. But for other types it's superior, compared to the current syntax which just calls add on the list object, which is very inefficient compared to building the whole thing at once which is what this new syntax does.

  • AdamBomb@lemmy.sdf.org
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    11 months ago

    Nice, primary constructors are one of my favorite little QoL features of writing objects in F#. Cool to see it come to C#.

    • douglasg14b@programming.dev
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      11 months ago

      The great thing about languages like C# is that you really don't need to "catch up". It's incredibly stable and what you know about C#8 (Really could get away with C# 6 or earlier) is more than enough to get you through the grand majority of personal and enterprise programming needs for the next 5-10 years.

      New language versions are adding features, improving existing ones, and improving on the ergonomics. Not necessarily breaking or changing anything before it.

      That's one of the major selling points really, stability and longevity. Without sacrificing performance, features, or innovation.