What a fucking breath of fresh air. Never watched it because I thought it would be lame since there's never any fighting. But fuck me it stands in stark contrast to all other media. It shows a future I actually want to live in. Everything else is some dystopian, violence ridden, dim look on humanity. Don't get me wrong I love a good dystopia but wow.
Fuck now I'm a nerd send help.
Any of the movies good or not so much?
It's a very mixed bag with the movies. Here's my personal opinions on each:
The Motion Picture- I think it's a great movie, but a lot of people disagree because it's very slow and strange. Might be an acquired taste, but I love it.
The Wrath of Khan- Fantastic flick, generally considered to be the best Star Trek film.
The Search For Spock- OK IMO, but a big downgrade from Wrath of Khan. Some lame stuff happens, but Christopher Lloyd plays a great hammy villain.
The Voyage Home- For me, this is tied with Wrath of Khan for best Star Trek movie. In a departure from the last two films, it's a fun, light comedy with an environmentalist message, written and directed by Leonard Nemoy.
The Final Frontier- Very bad, but funny if you don't take the franchise too seriously and like "so-bad-they're-good" type movies. Directed by William Shatner, whose massive ego just drips in every scene.
The Undiscovered Country- A solid film and a good end end to the TOS series.
Generations- Sucks. Stupid plot, ruins one of the best episodes of Next Gen, totally unnecessary addition of Kirk in the plot. A good performance from Malcolm McDowell elevates an otherwise stupid villain.
First Contact- A lot of people like this one- it's fairly solidly written, the special effects hold up extremely well, but it kind of ruins a lot of what makes TNG great.
Insurrection- Sucks.
Nemesis- Sucks. Nothing else to say about either Nemesis or Insurrection, they just plain suck.
09- Dumb action schlock that's fun for one watch but doesn't hold up at all on repeat viewings.
Into Darkness- Pure dogshit, the absolute worst Star Trek film, and it has heavy competition in that area.
Beyond- Actually kind of good, still action schlock with a weak villain, but IMO it's the only Abrams-Trek film to really nail the characters and the world.
I'll always love Undiscovered Country because it gave us Christopher Plummer as a one eyed Klingon general (whose eyepatch is bolted to his skull, what a badass!) who quotes Shakespeare while blasting torpedoes at his foes. What a fun character.
My absolute favourite joke in that film is when Bones, and I think Spock, are loading up a torpedo to fire at Chang's ship and he's once again quoting Shakespeare over the comm channel, and Bones is just like "does this guy ever shut up?" lol
Lmao! I almost referenced that exact part! You hear Chang say "I AM AS CONSTANT AS THE NORTHERN STAR" and then Bones says that quip. It's fantastic. A toast to your good taste, comrade. Edit: Yeah its Spock. He asks Bones to help him "Doctor, would you mind assisting me with performing surgery on a torpedo?"
Okay so maybe I've seen this movie too many times, don't @ me.
It's a good movie and weirdly not that talked about for some reason. II and IV come up a lot in Star Trek conversation but VI is really solid but I feel doesn't get mentioned as much.
It also has a character in it called Worf and he's played by Michael Dorn but he's also not that Worf played by Michael Dorn which is weird.
It also has René Auberjonois play one of the villains. He was called Colonel West which was a jab at Lt. Colonel Oliver North.
Another recurring character is Chang's ship getting blown up, where the scene shows up in Generations (where it's portraying the Duras sisters ship) because Paramount were cheap fucks, I guess.
I knew about the way they pretended Worf was a different Worf in TNG but I didn't know about the Oliver North joke nor the part where they reused the SFX shot of Chang's ship blowing up. Awesome trivia bits, thanks for those, I'll have to tell my Trek (original series and the old movies) father about those bits the next time we talk. He was the one that introduced me to Star Trek because he used to watch it in its original broadcast back in ye olden times. When the Sci Fi channel re-ran the original series we'd tape it on VHS and watch it together later on after he got home from work (it used to air in the mid afternoon if I'm not mistaken, back in like 1998/1999)
The real joke is that he doesn't quite understand why I am such an ardent socialist. Sorry dad, you showed me a better future, don't blame me for doubling down.
Talking about Worf, son of Mogh, son of Worf!
It also has Sisko's dad and the dude who plays Martok is in there somewhere. I was watching the movie with the subtitle commentary by Micheal Okuda and there may actually be more DS9 actors than TOS ones in that movie.
Thanks for the rundown!
There's a reason why it's also called The Slow Motion Picture, or The Motionless Picture.
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I seriously thought about putting a Mike Stoklasa emoji after my comment lol.
Agree except I'm not huge on Voyage Home and Undiscovered Country is tied with Khan for me.
The old rule of thumb was avoid any of the odd numbered movies.
Original series movies are good. Like the one where they face off against God (Star Trek V). Most people disagree with me on this
~90% of people think 2 or 4 is the best
Original Series movies are good, 5 is the only particularly bad one but it's schlocky fun. TNG movies are weh.
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First Contact is fun but holy shit it needed to just chill for a second. The pacing during the first half is just too fast. Insurrection is actually my favorite TNG movie because it's the only one to actually be TNG in movie form