• D3FNC [any]
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    1 year ago

    Republicans (see, it's right there in the name) have been openly mocking people who think we live in a democracy for literally my entire life

    • M68040 [they/them]
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      1 year ago

      The whole "Constitutional republic" thing is a old John Bircher talking point from what I can tell.

      • determinism2 [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        The only horseshoe theory is "america isn't a democracy" and the critical difference is the appendment of "and that's good, actually".

        • Reptorian@lemmy.zip
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          1 year ago

          I hope that there's a huge blue wave, and it stays blue, just so that I can say to them "America is a Constitutional Democracy, not a Republic".

          • Amerikan Pharaoh@lemmygrad.ml
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            1 year ago

            Can we get some non-Third Way blues? Some people that actually oppose the military industrial complex, and will actually push renewables over the coal, gas, and crude that's broiling our planet alive? 'Cause if we don't, I sure as shit won't be part of that wave. This current crop of dems can either get right or get gone.

            • Reptorian@lemmy.zip
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              1 year ago

              We have those in Congress. It's just that there's more conservative wing of Democratic Party is more numerous, and there's the issue of batshit-crazy right-wingers on the Republican side. Republican Party has to be extinct before left-wingers has a more significant foothold.

              • Amerikan Pharaoh@lemmygrad.ml
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                1 year ago

                Republican Party has to be extinct before left-wingers has a more significant foothold.

                How y'all plan to do that with the 'more numerous' Democrats obstructing progressive ideals just as staunchly, if not moreso than the Republicans? I don't sell out where I stand to gain nothing; and my left hand to my gods, my right hand to my ancestors, I see no one currently worth even temporary alliance in the current day Democrat party, exactly like I see the Republicans.

                As it stands, I'd rather the whole shit fell apart than sell my principles for nil to ghoul barbarians who will waste that support, as well as my tax money, on endless war, endless subjugation, and endless climate change.

                • Reptorian@lemmy.zip
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                  1 year ago

                  Easy. Voting left-wing on the down ballot and putting the better of the two on top. And it works over time.

                  • Amerikan Pharaoh@lemmygrad.ml
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                    1 year ago

                    I'm telling you there is no better, and the people you'd have me pencil-whip will waste the support, and my tax money. What's your plan? What's your party willing to concede? 'Cause right now, it sounds like a whole lot of nothing on offer for the invalidation of everything I believe in.

                    • Reptorian@lemmy.zip
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                      1 year ago

                      And a single person isn't going to change my mind, and you haven't offered anything. How you vote is your prerogative, not mine. Would you like to try again?

                      • Amerikan Pharaoh@lemmygrad.ml
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                        1 year ago

                        Then why are you out here giving Democrat-biased advice? They're the ones soliciting for my vote, not the other way around; ergo, the party who wants needs to give something. But now you're being a a redditor-type debate pervert; so you can get gone-- discussing with you is a waste. I don't address myself to people who talk like settlers, and I hear first world in your text.

                        • Reptorian@lemmy.zip
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                          1 year ago

                          You asked for a plan. I gave you what I think should be a plan. I don't think you can demonstrate that I'm giving Democrat-biased advice to people here. My profile is public. Feel free to try.

                          Your vote is not my business. So, I really do not care if you don't want to vote.

          • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            That would require actually uprooting small-r republicanism from the government, when they can't even uproot large-R Republicanism

    • keepcarrot [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      I remember I had a thought that maybe they feel the need to claim so because the line that they were going into Iraq to establish democracy created lots of democracy fans (however misinformed about the US's goal they were) that would otherwise be part of the republican base.

      It's probably just because their policies are actually deeply unpopular and they need a fig leaf to cover for the fact they're pursuing legal-but-undemocratic means to achieve their ends.