I don't want to be that guy, but in fairness, ol' boy didn't actually say "biblical republic" (He just wheeled out the old "constitutional Republic" bit).
Doesn't make this any better, but I want to be sure we criticize with facts.
Republicans (see, it's right there in the name) have been openly mocking people who think we live in a democracy for literally my entire life
The whole "Constitutional republic" thing is a old John Bircher talking point from what I can tell.
The only horseshoe theory is "america isn't a democracy" and the critical difference is the appendment of "and that's good, actually".
I hope that there's a huge blue wave, and it stays blue, just so that I can say to them "America is a Constitutional Democracy, not a Republic".
Can we get some non-Third Way blues? Some people that actually oppose the military industrial complex, and will actually push renewables over the coal, gas, and crude that's broiling our planet alive? 'Cause if we don't, I sure as shit won't be part of that wave. This current crop of dems can either get right or get gone.
We have those in Congress. It's just that there's more conservative wing of Democratic Party is more numerous, and there's the issue of batshit-crazy right-wingers on the Republican side. Republican Party has to be extinct before left-wingers has a more significant foothold.
Republican Party has to be extinct before left-wingers has a more significant foothold.
How y'all plan to do that with the 'more numerous' Democrats obstructing progressive ideals just as staunchly, if not moreso than the Republicans? I don't sell out where I stand to gain nothing; and my left hand to my gods, my right hand to my ancestors, I see no one currently worth even temporary alliance in the current day Democrat party, exactly like I see the Republicans.
As it stands, I'd rather the whole shit fell apart than sell my principles for nil to ghoul barbarians who will waste that support, as well as my tax money, on endless war, endless subjugation, and endless climate change.
Easy. Voting left-wing on the down ballot and putting the better of the two on top. And it works over time.
I'm telling you there is no better, and the people you'd have me pencil-whip will waste the support, and my tax money. What's your plan? What's your party willing to concede? 'Cause right now, it sounds like a whole lot of nothing on offer for the invalidation of everything I believe in.
And a single person isn't going to change my mind, and you haven't offered anything. How you vote is your prerogative, not mine. Would you like to try again?
Then why are you out here giving Democrat-biased advice? They're the ones soliciting for my vote, not the other way around; ergo, the party who wants needs to give something. But now you're being a a redditor-type debate pervert; so you can get gone-- discussing with you is a waste. I don't address myself to people who talk like settlers, and I hear first world in your text.
You asked for a plan. I gave you what I think should be a plan. I don't think you can demonstrate that I'm giving Democrat-biased advice to people here. My profile is public. Feel free to try.
Your vote is not my business. So, I really do not care if you don't want to vote.
That would require actually uprooting small-r republicanism from the government, when they can't even uproot large-R Republicanism
I remember I had a thought that maybe they feel the need to claim so because the line that they were going into Iraq to establish democracy created lots of democracy fans (however misinformed about the US's goal they were) that would otherwise be part of the republican base.
It's probably just because their policies are actually deeply unpopular and they need a fig leaf to cover for the fact they're pursuing legal-but-undemocratic means to achieve their ends.
What are the first ten word of the first amendment you hold so dearly when a minority asks you politely to be nice?
WHAT ARE THE FIRST TEN WORDS, MOTHERFUCKER!?
As if they've ever bothered to read any part of that document aside from the second amendment.
Ah, but with just one swing of this handy church-state separator...
This is why they kicked out McCarthy. This batshit motherfucker is going to drive so many voters to the Dems. Keep amplifying his insane bullshit.
This batshit motherfucker is going to drive so many voters to the Dems. Keep amplifying his insane bullshit.
Surely boosting far-right candidates won't backfire again
If we just keep platforming fascists eventually people will start voting for our milquetoast fascist-lite candidates who offer no solutions to any problems!
This batshit motherfucker is going to drive so many voters to the Dems.
Did I miss a memo and there's suddenly a dem worth voting for? Until we get a non-warmongering climate crusader as a dem candidate, my vote's going to Afroman. (Obligatory >:( from the brainwormed; saw that coming lmao)
This batshit motherfucker is going to drive so many voters to the Dems.
Rich Republicans will continue voting for whoever taxes them the least. Poor Republicans will continue voting to spite their perceived opponents (minorities, gays, "the woke mob").
Normies actually believe what he says.
Look at 4chan, there's no shortage of idiots who want to believe that porky is our lord and savior and they're actually the good guys when they go around ruining other people's lives "for teh lulz".
I am begging you to stop whinging about "normies", as well as pretending 4chan is a reasonable representation of the general population when it's q freaks and reactionary societal outcasts.
Separation of church and state is both the first amendment and a clause in article six of the constitution:
First Amendment:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof
article six
no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.
Thomas Jefferson's use of the words "separation of church and state" was to explain the purpose of the first amendment specifically but the actual legal text of the constitution is worded broadly enough to cover not only separation of church and state but separation of mosque/synagogue/ect and state rather than singling out Christianity.
the actual legal text of the constitution is worded broadly enough
Ahh, then you just engage in a narrow interpretation of it, hence allowing the combination of church and state.
I am not interested at having to let guys like this shove me around at literally any point in time for literally any reason, god or no
This is literally frightening to read that any American politician would think this. I don't see how any moderate R could support this train of thought.
The key is realizing that moderate Republicans don't oppose evangelical wackos either (and Dems, at best, try to have it both ways)
Moderate R are an endangered and disappearing species. And even if you find one, you'd be safe to assume they're "moderate" rather than moderate.
Lots of them think it. The more frightening aspect is the willingness to say it out loud.
Remember when Cheetoh-Man said things out loud and they loved him for it. Eight years later, they feel emboldened to do all kinds of shit that wouldn't have been on the radar back then. We're in trouble.
Liberal democracy is a wolf telling a heard of sheep what's for dinner
I can't wait for my first chance to ask someone the following:
"I have three questions: 1. What does 'Democracy' mean? 2. What does 'Republic' mean? 3. What is your point?"
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Face to the wall or back?
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Would you like a cigarette?
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Any last words?
The blindfold and cigarette are not for the benefit of the executed, they are for the executioner; and are therefore not optional.
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This is something I'm needlessly pedantic about. Democracy and republic mean roughly the same thing under most definitions. Republic tends to mean a country that's not a monarchy, and democracy tends to mean a place with public input. Nearly every country on Earth outside of absolute monarchies (Saudi Arabia, UAE, Eswatini,etc) is some kind of republic with some level of public input into policy. Everything's a democratic republic.
American Republicans get all bent up about trying to explain how they're structurally different than Democrats even though they're largely two wings of the same bourgeois party
Republicanism usually implies that the officials get a sizeable level of autonomy in their decisions once in office, and has no investment in proportional representation.
Untrue:
Republic = no monarch or emperor Democracy = a form of choosing those who govern
This is a very important distinction and you can have either with or without the other. I think that Republicans really want to say that your vote doesn't matter.
They mean the same shit in different languages. Republic is the latin word, and democracy is the greek word.
How is this banal? Seems like he's doing a lot more than just trying to succeed in his career.
He got the job because he was so boring, no one hated him enough to block him. Now he's going to let his hate flag fly.
Wow. This jackoff needs to go right now. That didn't take long. Isn't about time for Mr. Smith to start indicting these fuckers for treason?
Yo. Shit for brains. Here's the deal.
Get your god on the ballot. We'll vote for it. If it wins then maybe we'll give a listen to what it's got to say.
Otherwise keep that fucker OUT of our government.
Isn't that effectively what he's doing? A vote for him is a vote for his opinions, including that of God.
No, that is not what he's doing. He's pretending to be the will of some magical sky fairy, and he is anything but that. He claims to "hear" this imaginary person "telling him what to do". That is not the same thing as a god - that is a charlatan using the snake oil of an imaginary sky fairy to con the poorly educated.
What I want is god, I don't care which one (they're all imaginary) put on the ballot and voted for. This would be decisive two ways... First, how does one get on a ballot? (they have to prove they are a real live human being, among other tests). And the second doesn't matter, because an imaginary thing can't be on a ballot.
Good luck with that Johnson, you absolute fucking moron.
Let's see how far your far-right bullshit gets you.
The American people are sick and tired of your dysfunctional inability to get anything done.
Divine right of kings go thump in the bucket
