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Though he did clarify they don't have a worse police state than the US. He just both-sides it.

Edit - It's a law of hexbear that every discussion must turn into a struggle session. Especially if the discussion involves China.

  • ssjmarx [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    China has fewer prisoners per capita than the global average. That doesn't mean they're not a police state, but it does imply that if you consider them to be a police state then your definition is so broad as to be useless.

    • sunneonix [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      China will send Police to arrest you if you threaten the state, like a lot of places. Saying they are a Police state though should take into account how Chinese People perceive the police, and a lot of Chinese people and people living in China have shared that they normally see police as kind of push-overs who get bullied by screaming old ladies, or various other interactions where they think they're restrained almost to the point of impotency.

      I mean, the Police problem is really bad in America, it's truly hard to compare to anywhere else. Even in 3rd world nations where the Police are known for taking bribes and using torture, I've had people from Iraq tell me they trusted interacting with their own police more than American cops to not to act like degenerate psychos out to ruin their lives.

      • invalidusernamelol [he/him]M
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        4 years ago

        Then it becomes a useless term because "police state" implies that it's a special variant of a state.

        If all states fit the criteria of "police state" then that's just a state. The issue lies with parallel terms for the same thing:

        Our state is their police state

        Our prison is their prison camp

        Our government is their regime

        Etc.

        If there's a differing use of words, but not a differing reality between two things then you've found yourself a propaganda.

        • Alaskaball [comrade/them]MA
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          4 years ago

          reminds me of the bit on how the media describes stuff from the DPRk vs. USA. literally all about making one place sound scary and alien, and the other one swell with nothing wrong happening.

          • invalidusernamelol [he/him]M
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            4 years ago

            Almost like nearly everything you hear about the DPRK is just pure propaganda because it's one of the few nations that just doesn't care about what is said about it. The only reason they don't do the same with Vietnam, China, and Cuba is because they're moderately opened or have international trade relations that regulate the amount of propaganda they can get away with without risking severing those ties.

            • Alaskaball [comrade/them]MA
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              4 years ago

              The only reason they don’t do the same with Vietnam, China, and Cuba is because they’re moderately opened or have international trade relations that regulate the amount of propaganda they can get away with without risking severing those ties.

              :cia: : Challenge accepted