This old post got crossposted today in one of my subs and fascinated me. The top comment brings up the fact that even in OP’s wildest dreams only “extreme poverty” gets wiped out, with a super lib reply being “you can never eradicate poverty because it’s human nature to want to be rich and the poors are lazy and blablabla”.

I’ve always found it depressing just how bleak the liberal outlook on the world is, where even the far flung future isn’t safe. Even in their “utopic” scenario that eliminates borders, people just have to suffer because that’s the way things have to be. (Not surprising that OP is the “TWR guy” but I digress)

No wonder SCI-FI as a genre turned me off until somewhat recently.