At this point I don't know how feasible that is

  • TeethOrCoat [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    The problem here is, what's more likely? The US left right now doesn't inspire very much confidence. A large chunk of them even seem to be fanning the flames of war. On the anti-imperialist side, we see some promising developments in Latin America.

    • MarxMadness [comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      It depends on how you define "the left," but I don't see a lot of fanning the flames. There's barely anything worth calling that from the Bernie/AOC crowd (you'll get some "China Bad," sure, but that's a lot different from calling for war), and there's less and less the further left you go.

      As for the anti-imperialist developments in Latin America, they're great, but they're not a significant factor in U.S. politics.

      • TeethOrCoat [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        OK, I'm not from or in the US, so I don't have a complete or accurate idea of how the left looks nowadays. My knowledge comes from either people I know IRL who have been there or, most of the time, observing the various online interactions and media depictions. When I say fanning the flames, I don't just mean a vague "China Bad" of course. I mean the types who go along with Empire and spread their propaganda, call others tankies, dengists, genocide deniers for expressing skepticism. This could be a common thing IRL, it could be an uncommon thing IRL, I don't know. I am concerned though, that 45% of the US believes PRC is the greatest threat.

        As for the anti-imperialist developments in Latin America, they’re great, but they’re not a significant factor in U.S. politics.

        If the reason for the lack of revolutionary activity is due to the appeasement brought about by the exploitation of the global south, then it stands to reason that to achieve socialism in the imperial core the exploited have to break away first. My feeling is the exploited are more likely to break away before any socialist movement finds success in the US.

      • NaturalsNotInIt [any]
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        4 years ago

        Online the attitude is generally good - solidarity with Palestine and new governments in Latin America, swatting down China b.s., etc. IRL, it's hard to say. I don't talk politics at work (they're all right-wing anyway), and I have been to any sort of "Lefty" events irl, but I'm expecting a lot of both sides bullshit, "Xinjiang is sooooo bad" remarks, etc. from normies.

      • TeethOrCoat [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        Well, you can't expect the rest of the world to sit on their hands waiting for US socialists to get their act together. I'm not saying that you can't build a strong socialist movement in the US before dismantling Empire (in fact I would welcome it since it'll likely make it easier for all anti-imperialists), it's just from what I've observed of the state of the left in the country, I think it's unlikely to happen. It's up to US comrades ultimately if the country gets taken over by right wing populists.