https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1408470743483129857?s=19

  • BeamBrain [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    The post-WW2 military posture of the US has been endless war.

    Correct

    To enable that, there must always be an existential threat, a new, fresh enemy that can scare a large enough portion of the population with sufficient intensity.

    100%. First it was communism, then it was radical Islam.

    That new war target are

    Ooh, I know this one! It's China!

    "domestic white supremacists."

    :agony-limitless:

    • Invidiarum [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      Wanted to scold our poster: ain't no dunks in this one. Then I read it till the end :chomsky-yes-honey:

      • NeverGoOutside [any]
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        3 years ago

        we need a deeper-agony-chomsky that is deep fried for this GG dogshit take

    • coatimundi [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      100%. First it was communism, then it was radical Islam.

      Consider the following: both of your examples originate in the context of internal affairs, if it weren't so there wouldn't be a reason for McCarthyism and anti-terrorism activity. China keeps to itself and doesn't have any relevant ties to domestic actors that could be persecuted, so you can't make the jump from internal problem to external problem and the comparison doesn't make sense. On Greenwald's point, people don't seem to want to admit this because of their attachment to the cultural norms of the Democratic-voting contingent of American society, but there is no contradiction between condemnation of China in the context of external affairs and white supremacy or whatever else in the domestic context. They could even tie it all together and say that the Chinese are doing white supremacy on the Uighurs and it's racist to say they don't need to invade China to free the Uighurs, I bet many people would eat that up too.

      • JuryNullification [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        there is no contradiction between condemnation of China in the context of external affairs and white supremacy or whatever else in the domestic context. They could even tie it all together and say that the Chinese are doing white supremacy on the Uighurs and it's racist to say they don't need to invade China to free the Uighurs, I bet many people would eat that up too.

        Step away from the Lathe of Heaven

        • coatimundi [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          There's historical precedent, too. During the Bush years, people would get called misogynists for opposing the Iraq war because the US government was allegedly going to turn Iraq into a modern liberal democracy and liberate the local women from traditionalist religious oppression. And if you didn't think that was doable, you'd get called a racist because you'd be implying Arabs were inherently less capable of being decent people than Americans. At least that's what I hear from people on the internet who say they're old enough to have been aware of politics back then.

                • coatimundi [none/use name]
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                  3 years ago

                  Well yeah, but you know how people here are, they'll always say everyone to ever use social justice cultural signifiers to justify something bad in any context was totally cynical because it protects their ability to believe that actually what makes someone a "good" person is sincere attachment to the cultural norms of the Democratic-voting contingent of American society. I do think this is the crux of why they're so upset with Greenwald over this, because he's critical of what they see as "good" people, so it's always good to remind them that that's not actually how the world works.

                  • zeal0telite [he/him,they/them]
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                    3 years ago

                    I'm not sure they even believe it. They're so scared of being labeled "bad" that they just see an article like "You are this kind of bad if you don't support (obviously evil thing)" and they decide to support said evil thing.