As far as I'm aware, China has been giving loans to various countries in Africa and building infrastructure in exchange for money and maybe some stuff like recognizing Taiwan as part of China. But why do people say China is imperialist for doing this? Is there truth to it or is it another strain of radlibs eating state department propaganda?

  • D61 [any]
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    3 years ago

    ... nothing in return.

    Quid pro quo is fine so long as the terms of what is being expected in return aren't outside what the less "powerful" nation is able and wanting to accept.

    Like, lending a neighbor some cash and expecting the cash back at some point in the future as well as maybe being able to ask for help later with a better chance of being told "yes" versus lending cash to my neighbor on the condition that I get to roll around naked on top of their car.

    Both scenarios, I ask/expect something in return. Only one of those scenarios do I do something "allegedly" weird and "allegedly" uncomfortable for the other party.

    • Ryan_Holman [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I would still say that if you are doing something increase your influence, it is doing just that.

      • D61 [any]
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        3 years ago

        Depends on what you mean by "influence".

        Being a person that can be relied on by others to help them, increases your influence with those people you help. Proving yourself a valuable friend can increase your influence among the people you hang out with.

        You can gain influence both through subterfuge/coercion or just by being a decent creature.

        The USA could increase its influence by trying to have a good reputations with other nations, but usually can't keep the need for dick swinging in check long enough to do so. Sure, the PRC could have some nefarious scheme going on... or it could just being trying to work with other countries that could use the help.

        • Ryan_Holman [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Sure, the PRC could have some nefarious scheme going on… or it could just being trying to work with other countries that could use the help.

          My personal view is that they see an opportunity and went for it.