I think the argument has been mostly settled in favor of the "lukewarm-blooded" theory, but it'd still be interesting to see if anyone has any dissenting opinions.

  • coeliacmccarthy [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Look at some alligators in the U.S., they make it through occasionally-freezing winters.

    Yeah but late cretaceous arctic winters got colder than winters in the range of alligators. There's no gators in Montana today and a polar cretaceous winter would have been similarly cold. The same arctic site that I'm thinking of re:ceratopsians specifically turned up zero remains of reptiles or amphibians despite them having sieved and sorted all microfossils

    • Bluegrass_Buddhist [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      a polar cretaceous winter would have been similarly cold

      For real? I don't know much about cretacious climates but I thought the era was generally warmer than the quaternary. Like no-ice-at-the-poles warm. Happy to be wrong about this, that was just my impression.

      • coeliacmccarthy [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        no permanent ice at the poles, correct; but sea ice in winter wasn't out of the question IMO. It was a lot warmer but that still meant a cool-temperate continental climate like, say, continental eastern europe or the northern Rockies

        • Bluegrass_Buddhist [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          Hmm... Ok. Idk. The thing that put me in the lukewarm-blood camp was a paper I read about dinosaur growth rates (specifically therapods and sauropods, I think?). The argument was they grew in a way that was too seasonally-dependant to be warm-blooded, but too quickly to be truly cold-blooded. Or something along those lines.