• MarxMadness [comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    How much of this would have happened with or without Trump? idk.

    Hillary largely ran on the promise of continuing the Obama years, and as a former cabinet member under Obama, that was plausible. She probably would have followed through on the Iran deal, at least kept in place the Obama thaw on Cuba, continued the bad-but-not-as-bad-as-Trump drone program, and done the coup attempts in Bolivia and Venezuela. Maybe some bad things she would have done a bit more competently (e.g., the Venezuela coup), but that gets back to your point about edging into "great man" territory. Presidents almost certainly don't plan the fine details of stuff like that, and the idea that Trump's incompetence hindered the national security state is overblown anyway -- they just started lying to him when he had a broken clock good instinct.