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Was Elevatorgate before or after it? That was when I felt the edgelords started to turn really bad, though of course things like "an hero" were already awful. And I do remember edgy ironic nazi memes from very early.
Oh god I had forgotten all about Elevatorgate. That was before, in 2011. Gamergate started in earnest in 2014.
Were those the same groups of internet edgelords? Like it was debate club atheists and 4chan pedophiles. There was probably overlap though. It gives me vertigo to think that "atheist" used to be a whole structured ideological stance just like 7 years ago and somehow involved transphobia and rabid hatred of feminism.
There was severe overlap between the right branch of the atheists (not usually the sort that hung around with PZ Meyers though) and channers in my experience, Probably stemming from the first Scientology/Creationism wars back on USENET.
Was Elevatorgate before or after it? That was when I felt the edgelords started to turn really bad, though of course things like "an hero" were already awful. And I do remember edgy ironic nazi memes from very early.
Oh god I had forgotten all about Elevatorgate. That was before, in 2011. Gamergate started in earnest in 2014.
Were those the same groups of internet edgelords? Like it was debate club atheists and 4chan pedophiles. There was probably overlap though. It gives me vertigo to think that "atheist" used to be a whole structured ideological stance just like 7 years ago and somehow involved transphobia and rabid hatred of feminism.
There was severe overlap between the right branch of the atheists (not usually the sort that hung around with PZ Meyers though) and channers in my experience, Probably stemming from the first Scientology/Creationism wars back on USENET.