They’re not making the point that they think they are
I've been experimenting with using the American Exceptionalism propaganda machine against them. "What do you mean an AMERICAN isn't worth $15 an hour?! The minimum wage in Luxembourg is 18 an hour. You're telling me that a tea drinking EUROPEAN mountain weirdo from the buttcrack of nowhere is somehow worth more that a RED BLOODED BLUE COLLAR KICK ASS AMERICAN BORN IS GOD'S OWN BACKYARD?!"
You'd be surprised how often it absolutely wrecks their whole argument.
Haven't had that response yet. But I only talk to working class chuds, in person. The kind of guy that already hates his job and his boss. I don't waste my time on the PMC class, small business tyrants, online debate, ancaps, or libs.
Chuds are at least aware of the material realities of class conflict, they just blame the wrong person. The kind of person to truly dicksuck a small business owner irl is probably chronically online and too far gone.
Nah dude, they just blame the (((Jews))) or gates or Soros or Clinton or Biden or aliens. They see the decay, they are aware of the decline first hand.
They actually do see that the roads are worse and things cost more. All that other shit is projection and wedge issues designed to distract them, and their anger. They blame Clinton and the deep state for all of capitalisms blowbacks, because blaming capitalism itself would be a threat.
I'm not saying they have class consciousness, I am saying they are at least aware things are shitty. They've just been distracted by whatever is this week's outrage, by the people who are the most invested in them being distracted.
I like to think of it like a lightning rod. Take their anger, and point them somewhere, anywhere, that won't do damage to the status quo. That way they don't have anger left over for the shit that actually matters. And if their anger can be put towards something beneficial to the status quo, even better.
The goal here is to publicly humiliate them for being unamerican. They are giving you all the ammo you need. "Do you really, seriously, only see hard working Americans as a stepping stone to your own success? You're a monster." And then try to end the conversation. They won't let you. Keep hammering this line of reasoning until you get bored.
You’d be surprised how often it absolutely wrecks their whole argument.
show me the way
Shit like this is what makes me thinks that the difference between "left" and "right" is just empathy.
I found a specific elegance in the truth. Wages are tied to the minimum wage. They get paid more, we will get paid more. So it is in everyone's intrest to raise minimum wage
