• mr_world [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    Yes, that'll stop republicans. Just hold them to the rules they set forth and they'll buckle. Yep. That's how it has worked and why republicans are no more. If you confront them with the rules they'll just concede and shake your hand.

  • Owl [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    If 220,000 people uproot their entire lives for political ends, form a fucking army, you absolute dweeb.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      3 years ago

      I mean, the GOP basically did this in Wyoming. Energy companies on the East Coast turned the state into a giant company town, importing tens of thousands of company men to carve up and administer the state on their behalf. The Wyoming political establishment is as well-oiled as any machine politics run out of Tammany Hall.

      The GOP simply made administering Wyoming profitable. Dems since LBJ have struggled to build a political establishment that genuinely benefits its low-rung members. You're either grasping for that gold ring or you're left to fall flat on your face.

  • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Imaginary future where the Democrats have the presidency, the senate, and congress:

    We need to compromise with the republicans

    :liberalism:

    • Alex_Jones [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Scratch a liberal and all that. Rather, present the opportunity for a chud to like you...

    • fuckwit [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      see texas lol What happened to becoming more lib if all the californians are moving in? Still chuddy as ever

      • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        The biggest Chuds in my state (or at least the part of my state that I'm in) are all Californian petite bourgeois types that associate this area with freedom and trucks.

        See more people with California tags rolling coal than NC tags. Tons of Cali chuds that just can't wait to release themselves on the rest of us.

  • SaniFlush [any, any]
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    3 years ago

    Or- get this- we could destroy the electoral college and never bring it back. Or even better, we stop expecting career politicians to be anything but easily bribed capitalist sycophants.

  • CliffordBigRedDog [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I like how they propose to mobilise 200000 people and move them across the country....

    Just to vote

      • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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        3 years ago

        This whole thing reads like the Free State Project shit Libertarians were pooping into the punch bowl a decade ago.

        "We'll all move to New Hampshire and turn it into the first Majority Libertarian State!" Supposedly a couple thousand people did actually pull the trigger, congealing in small rural townships like Grafton.

        This is the so-called Free Town Project, a venture wherein a group of libertarian activists attempted to take over a tiny New Hampshire town, Grafton, and transform it into a haven for libertarian ideals—part social experiment, part beacon to the faithful, Galt’s Gulch meets the New Jerusalem. These people had found one another largely over the internet, posting manifestos and engaging in utopian daydreaming on online message boards. While their various platforms and bugbears were inevitably idiosyncratic, certain beliefs united them: that the radical freedom of markets and the marketplace of ideas was an unalloyed good; that “statism” in the form of government interference (above all, taxes) was irredeemably bad. Left alone, they believed, free individuals would thrive and self-regulate, thanks to the sheer force of “logic,” “reason,” and efficiency. For inspirations, they drew upon precedents from fiction (Ayn Rand loomed large) as well as from real life, most notably a series of micro-nation projects ventured in the Pacific and Caribbean during the 1970s and 1980s.

        Let me tell you, it worked out really well and now this is definitely a model for social change nationwide.

  • SovietyWoomy [any]
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    3 years ago

    If democrats had 58 senate seats, they would bow to the whims of 42 republicans and 9 manchins

  • BelovedOldFriend [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    They're specific in describing their target audience and I agree that those people should fuck off out to nowhere.

    • fuckwit [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      i dom’g see how it’s gentrification, though. People in ‘flyover states’ are rich as fuck.

      • Sklorp [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        The median income in Montana is 3000 dollars lower than California. Cost of living is obviously a factor, but don't be ridiculous

        • fuckwit [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          property ownership rate is way higher and cost of living is way lower, though.

          • Sklorp [she/her]
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            3 years ago

            And what do you think would happen to that cost of living if a bunch of people with California tech wages moved there

            • fuckwit [none/use name]
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              3 years ago

              Price would increase but so would property values. Again, Montana has a near 70% homeownership rate, nearly 13% more than California.

              • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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                3 years ago

                Migrant workers and the homeless aren't included in those stats, and if there's one thing migratory Californians are good at it's genociding those groups

              • Sklorp [she/her]
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                3 years ago

                Its not gentrification because house prices will rise

                :visible-disgust:

                • fuckwit [none/use name]
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                  3 years ago

                  you’re forgetting the context that most people in Montana are landowners

                  • Sklorp [she/her]
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                    3 years ago

                    The only way that's relevant to an increase in cost of living and taxation for the working class is through taking on debt in the houses or the sale of housing. House ownership used to be way higher in gentrified areas.

                    Tbis is just a mind boggling take.

                    • fuckwit [none/use name]
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                      3 years ago

                      yes, the historically disadvataged people of montana with their thousand acre farms will be slightly financially inconvenienced by some slightly more privileged libs moving into their lands. i mean, really, this is hardly gentrification. let’s be real.

                      • Sklorp [she/her]
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                        3 years ago

                        Just because you don't know what gentrification is doesn't make it fake. Gentrification primary mechanism is the raising of house prices, a factor you somehow consider to counteract gentrification because everyone in"Fly over" states are wealthy landowners. This in spite of similar poverty rates and a lower median income than the places that can experience gentrification.

                        Your take is just bad

                        • fuckwit [none/use name]
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                          3 years ago

                          Gentrification is literally defined by the restructuring of urban spaces and Montana….lacks those.

        • fuckwit [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          income would probably also increase.

          Gentrifying is just an appropriate word to use for a state like Montana.

  • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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    3 years ago

    gee, I wonder why people don't live in those places with these attitudes already? Maybe it's not the job of citizens to abandon their way of life and useful infrastructure? maybe you could focus on why those people think the way they do about the world and actually learn something?

    • MiraculousMM [he/him, any]
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      3 years ago

      No you see, its our duty as The Enlightened(TM) to preach the gospel of Neoliberalism to the filthy, uneducated rural hill people, who I would literally deny basic human needs to if I was given the chance! I'm the goodest good guy!

  • UglySpaghettiHoe [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    If you just uproot your entire life and move to somewhere you have no connection to, then we can paint some of this map blue and watch even more democrats get nothing done

  • Gay_Wrath [fae/faer]
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    3 years ago

    hahah yeah totally safe for my clearly enby ass to move my gay marriage to one of these states

    i'd also have to start driving because there's no public transit

    and living in a climate a hate

    without the infrastructure i have here (public libraries, fibre internet, lots of grocery stores)

    but sure, capitalists will just let us :vote: in their oppression

  • Alex_Jones [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Instead of questioning how and why those states have power, let's go there and not have any economic stability, working infrastructure, or safety.