Like the amount of half truth and ignored nuance in this piece is staggering.

EDIT: It is even more insane when you consider there is an explicit plan by the US intelligence state to break up and balkanize China. Like they aren't even trying to keep it secret.

Edit2: "non amp version:https://web.archive.org/web/20211102155719/https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/11/us-china-war/620571/" Courtesy of Alcoholicorn

  • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]
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    3 years ago

    Every instinct inside of me screams out that Deng's reforms should have doomed China. The idea of opening your markets to finance capital seems like flushing the revolution down the toilet. And yet here we are. I can't tell if the Dengists were brilliant or the West was just incredibly stupid and blinded by ideology. I'm more inclined to believe the latter, but damn.

    • VladimirLenin [she/her,they/them]
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      3 years ago

      Its so strange too, its not like deng was hiding his plans. Theres quotes of him telling US diplomats what china is doing, and its plans for the future. The bourguoise are too blinded by short-term profits and their own ideology to care.

    • Bluegrass_Buddhist [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      Deng once angrily insisted that he was not the "Kruschev of China," and while I'm glad his liberalization efforts paid off where Kruschev's didn't, I sometimes can't help but think that Deng just got lucky.

      • please_dont [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Deng upheld Mao and his contributions and the ideological and historical unity of the party and movement. Kruschev on the other hand

        • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          :corn-man-khrush: :stalin-gun-1::deng-smile: "Khrushchev? What good has Khrushchev ever done?"

          • Bluegrass_Buddhist [none/use name]
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            3 years ago

            Was it Deng or Mao who called Kruschev to Beijing for an emergency meeting and then when he got there they were just chilling in the pool shouting things at him through his interpreter?

            And then made Kruschev get in the pool because it was easier to talk and they had to get Kruschev floaties because he couldn't swim?

            Edit: it was Mao