Its probably rough finding people to do constant night and weekend work. And I'd expect that at the very least, the kitchen staff would be working well after the store closes to clean the kitchen area (or there's a graveyard shift that does that, which is probably even harder to find people who'd want to work those hours for a long period of time.)
Agreed, the only really good thing about the Soviet planning was that everyone was on the set schedules and there wasn't any of the just in time scheduling that we have now. Made it a lot easier for workers to plan ahead instead of being thrust into a schedule 2 days before it starts at best.
That schedule seems rough, but like even today in America, 12 hour night shifts aren't uncommon. Most of the factory work out here is on a 12 hour shift with 3 shifts/week starting so you aren't full time until you pick up a 4th and are working 48 hour weeks and still need to pick up another to get enough overtime to make the $15-17/hr wage worth it.
yeah shit's rough in the us, i have experience in europe, plenty of family working in factories (did a bit but was not in a 24/24 one) and the moving shifts every week is a killer, they still prefered night shifts only over the moving schedule, but we're talking about 40h a week annualized to something like 35h a week, not as rough at all, worst part? salary's the same (if not lower) but it's livable here (well apart from big city centers but they don't have factories anyways)
Yeah, a great idea that takes a fundamental change in how management thinks about things though.
When I worked a "normal" job I spent a decade getting my peers comfortable with some cross training to make it easier to do short rotations through other sections only to have management constantly undermine this effort by deciding " labor costs were too high " "LaBoR CoStS wErE tOo HiGh!?!?!?" and reducing the number of people in the department on all shifts.
Then it just turned back into, keep your head down, avoid eye contact, admit to knowing nothing outside of the bare minimum. And I don't blame those co-workers one bit.
Its probably rough finding people to do constant night and weekend work. And I'd expect that at the very least, the kitchen staff would be working well after the store closes to clean the kitchen area (or there's a graveyard shift that does that, which is probably even harder to find people who'd want to work those hours for a long period of time.)
Return to the Soviet style schedule where you work a rotating shift throughout the month and share the burden of 3rd shift.
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nah the 3*8 is actually quite terrible, either hazard pay or shifting the pattern one week a month (back to back) to night
Agreed, the only really good thing about the Soviet planning was that everyone was on the set schedules and there wasn't any of the just in time scheduling that we have now. Made it a lot easier for workers to plan ahead instead of being thrust into a schedule 2 days before it starts at best.
yeah fixed planning is much better, agreed, and soviet conditions were better generally for workers so factoy shifts were probably not as much a pain
That schedule seems rough, but like even today in America, 12 hour night shifts aren't uncommon. Most of the factory work out here is on a 12 hour shift with 3 shifts/week starting so you aren't full time until you pick up a 4th and are working 48 hour weeks and still need to pick up another to get enough overtime to make the $15-17/hr wage worth it.
yeah shit's rough in the us, i have experience in europe, plenty of family working in factories (did a bit but was not in a 24/24 one) and the moving shifts every week is a killer, they still prefered night shifts only over the moving schedule, but we're talking about 40h a week annualized to something like 35h a week, not as rough at all, worst part? salary's the same (if not lower) but it's livable here (well apart from big city centers but they don't have factories anyways)
Yeah, a great idea that takes a fundamental change in how management thinks about things though.
When I worked a "normal" job I spent a decade getting my peers comfortable with some cross training to make it easier to do short rotations through other sections only to have management constantly undermine this effort by deciding "
labor costs were too high" "LaBoR CoStS wErE tOo HiGh!?!?!?" and reducing the number of people in the department on all shifts.Then it just turned back into, keep your head down, avoid eye contact, admit to knowing nothing outside of the bare minimum. And I don't blame those co-workers one bit.