Exclusive: poll of 10 countries including US, UK, France and Germany finds people prioritising measures that are already habits

interesting and not exactly encouraging survey and the guardian is going with the whole "look at these selfish and irresponsible plebs", but the big thing i take from it is mostly that climate messaging has been so terrible that nobody knows what the fuck to do, everyone is sceptical of the personal responsibility bullshit, and the most highly-rated thing is that people just want some fucking leadership on this (interesting that there were very few questions on what government/industry should be doing, i wonder why)

    • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]
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      3 years ago

      This is really it. There is absolutely no fucking incentive for the individual to make sacrifices when it is blatantly obvious that every other asshole in society will proceed rolling coal, converting defunct coal plants into bitcoin miners, building datacenters in the middle of Death Valley, filling three trashbags with plastic waste every day, opening their windows to regulate heat because their landlords won't install a fucking themostat, etc.

      Putting this on the individual is FUCKING SUICIDAL. We need collective action not just to rebuild society around ecological principles, but to fucking bury the oligarchs and strike pure terror into the selfish overconsumers as the first order of business. We need a full blown cultural revolution against the waste. Modestly throwing cans into the recycling dumpster isn't going to cut it. We need to be throwing executives into the dumpster.

      And no, we're not there yet. We're not even close. But nothing less will suffice. These people obviously don't fear Armageddon, but that doesn't mean they can't be terrified.

      Sorry, I'm just really mad.

    • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Well why the fuck should I?

      I eat meat about once a week. I bike to work.

      There are obviously limitations to what we can do through individual choices, but also if you're already doing a lot to limit your personal carbon emissions, I don't think you're the typical person surveyed here?