interesting and not exactly encouraging survey and the guardian is going with the whole "look at these selfish and irresponsible plebs", but the big thing i take from it is mostly that climate messaging has been so terrible that nobody knows what the fuck to do, everyone is sceptical of the personal responsibility bullshit, and the most highly-rated thing is that people just want some fucking leadership on this (interesting that there were very few questions on what government/industry should be doing, i wonder why)

  • Orcocracy [comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    Individual decisions (and other market-based nonsense like carbon taxes) won't ever lead you to choose to take an electric train line that doesn't exist, to your bullshit job that probably shouldn't exist, which is in a horribly energy inefficient glass tower where the windows don't even open, to suffer under the whims of your do-nothing boss who says that you're not allowed to work from your own home, which is a detached suburban house surrounded by abandoned shopping malls and empty parking lots, and where the nearest supermarket requires driving, and the only way to buy even something basic like milk is in single use containers made entirely or mostly of plastic. Who would honestly choose to live like this if other options were easily available?

    • RandyLahey [he/him]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      i go to the supermarket and theres five brands of the same shit all in the same plastic bottles with the same fake recycling logo but one of them is a green bottle with a picture of the earth on it so maybe that means its slightly better for the environment in some unspecified way but maybe not and even if it does it probably offsets that by even worse labour conditions or something and im tired and i hate being in this fucking supermarket trying to be an expert in the relative environmental impact of detergent when the chemical company that produced it probably dumped ten times as much toxic waste into the rivers while manufacturing it, but hey im voting for the earth with my wallet, yay me