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  • Awoo [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    I agree, though I'm not sure that it's evidence in either direction. "cause" is interesting for an ex-nato commander to be using to describe them, to me this word implies ideological underpinnings to the motivations.

    I think the biggest thing that is swaying me back in their favour though seems to be where Eritrea is going in all this. They have some dodgy stuff going on but I think we can at least agree on some sort of critical support for them and they seem to be taking deniable activities via infiltrators and saboteurs to support TPLF.

    https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/us-slaps-sanctions-on-eritrea-military-ruling-party-for-interference-in-ethiopia-2608877

    • spez_hole [he/him,they/them]
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      3 years ago

      More interesting is the phrase "offer aid to the civilian population as an incentive for a cease-fire.” In what world does offering aid to civilians end the shooting? Only in the world where NATO is trying to paint the TPLF as "the civilians" or "the masses."

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        Alternate interpretation: Or a world where the civilians are joining some militia/army because the circumstances are driving them to do so.

        In the circumstances where an army's human resources are coming from people in terrible material conditions it only makes sense to me that preventing the growth of those human resources would come from providing aid and feeding the people that are potential recruits for that army. A humanitarian crisis and famine would definitely drive people toward taking up arms if a ready source of those arms is available. This seems like a more material analysis.

        • spez_hole [he/him,they/them]
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          3 years ago

          I mean, that's exactly what they are asking you to think about the TPLF, that they are some necessary ad-hoc force of the people's will against the cruel regime, despite ruling as a single-party state in Ethiopia for decades. In any case, there's no such thing as giving aid to the civilians in a war and not the combatants who control territory and resources.

          • Awoo [she/her]
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            3 years ago

            Fair. So what the fuck are Eritrea doing supposedly supporting US compradors on their doorstep then?

            • spez_hole [he/him,they/them]
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              3 years ago

              I don't know. They seem to be way better than the TPLF, or used to be. Maybe just a long friendly history and adjacency to northern Ethiopia, where the TPLF are IIRC

              • Awoo [she/her]
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                3 years ago

                I don't think that's the whole story here. They wouldn't be helping them if they didn't see some sort of either strategic or ideological benefit to themselves. I don't buy "oh they've been buds for a while so they're willing to die" as a particularly good reason.

                • spez_hole [he/him,they/them]
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                  3 years ago

                  I think you're right, I'm just making guesses. Things look messy and it's hard to get good information from English speaking sources. Syria was like that for a very long time

                  • Awoo [she/her]
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                    3 years ago

                    Syria was like that for a very long time

                    Yep fog of war was very strong. I still remember what a mess trying to point out how sus Assad's "gas attacks" were supposed to be, now thoroughly debunked of course but at the time it caused serious arguments among the left.