illiterate Jimmy Dore smoothbrains think workers are too dumb to understand historical materialism? That's fucking hilarious!!! I could never imagine such a joke :michael-laugh:

Why is there so much of this Patriotic Socialism BS all of a sudden?

The masses are being reached by Maupin

a bunch of kids and badly read "marxists", a good portion of whom have never read a lick of ML theory nor have ever been in a ML party, and another good portion who were right winger 4channers less than a year ago, "radicalized" online via idiotic twitch streamers feeding them de-contextualized and erroneously understood mined quotes, are being reached by a right opportunist ex-trot grifter.

"ex-trot grifter" Still an opportunist, so he's still a Trot :bugs-stalin:

"the masses" lmfao good god the levels of larp with this one. Also love the projected accusation of "classism" when it's PRECISELY what haz, maupin, and co are doing with their conceptualization of the masses and what they see the working class as consisting of. Unadulterated tailist trash.

Tailism is simping for class unconscious reactionaries rather than leading them towards a dialectical materialist consciousness: https://www.massline.org/Dictionary/T.htm

Where is the objectively pro-imperialist message? It doesn't exist. You only pretend that you don't understand this because you don't care about achieving socialism

No materialism mf thinks Amerikkka doesn't exist

some comments on their reactionary classism:

"you're diametrically opposed to educating the masses" and there's the strawman again. I said your a classist if you believe the only way to educate the masses is to be patriotic or whatever that means.

And there's the classism again. There is no reason, with proper education, the working class can't understand or digest the reality that their country is nothing to be proud of. In fact, the working class has felt first hand how little their country cares for them.

more smoothbrain comments, no wonder these people stan Jimmy Dore lmao:

The American people do not send their sons and daughters to die for the sake of "imperialism", they do it out of a desire to achieve a better life for themselves and their fellow countrymen.

The international working class do not send their sons and daughters to destroy soulless redditor radlibs for the sake of "communism", they do it out of a desire to achieve a better life for themselves and their fellow countrymen.

This entire message is to be directed at the non-politicized masses, not at you, therefore, it uses the meaning of "country" that they use. Being coherent is important.

"imperialism has nothing to do with the imperial core" very coherent class consciousness

I feel like your entire argument is based on the historically false idea working class people somehow cannot grasp marxism without it being watered down. This belief is what is classiest. You and I are not special. If we can be radicalized so can others, like in the October revolution. There is no need to be patriotic.

Actually Jimmy Dore fans are definitely "special" if you know what I mean :brace-cowboy: