The DNC seems very confident that they can simply smack down, arrest and slaughter all those people they're denying the right to vote. The problem with trying to control a population through intimidation and oppression is after a certain point, said oppressed people stop giving a shit...
People regularly stop giving a shit. Problem is the police state's still strong enough to beat, kill, disappear, and intimidate enough of the population that eventually most people just decide it's not worth it to fight back.
I mean, all that trillions of military hardware we have lying around has to get used eventually. Eventually things will crack enough that the federal government isn't able to enforce its will across the former U.S., but that's probably decades off. Could also lead to a new Warlord Period as cops and soldiers realize they still have most of the guns and no one there to say how to use them.
I'm saying this not to be a doomer but as someone with organizing experience: A lot of Americans would prefer to die on their knees. Standing up takes effort, and there's no gaurantee it'll amount to anything.
There's a long road ahead of us still to develop the working class' revolutionary potential.
Wait wait wait, are you saying you still have hope that moderates can be turned around? Lately I've been assuming that the most domesticated of humans would have to die out before anything gets done.
Never did like Gatcha game mechanics. Than again, I know that moderates with unexplored bigotry can break left because that describes ME. The SaniFlush of barely four or five years ago would be another statistic in a conflict like this.
What can we do to put our thumb on the scale? We have a better world to build and I want as many people enjoying it with me as possible.
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The DNC seems very confident that they can simply smack down, arrest and slaughter all those people they're denying the right to vote. The problem with trying to control a population through intimidation and oppression is after a certain point, said oppressed people stop giving a shit...
People regularly stop giving a shit. Problem is the police state's still strong enough to beat, kill, disappear, and intimidate enough of the population that eventually most people just decide it's not worth it to fight back.
Forever?
Conditions have to be real bad to make people take a flier on a major uprising.
We could still try teaching them the difference between right and wrong at least...
I mean, all that trillions of military hardware we have lying around has to get used eventually. Eventually things will crack enough that the federal government isn't able to enforce its will across the former U.S., but that's probably decades off. Could also lead to a new Warlord Period as cops and soldiers realize they still have most of the guns and no one there to say how to use them.
It seems to be the difference between dying on your feet or on your knees.
I'm saying this not to be a doomer but as someone with organizing experience: A lot of Americans would prefer to die on their knees. Standing up takes effort, and there's no gaurantee it'll amount to anything.
There's a long road ahead of us still to develop the working class' revolutionary potential.
Wait wait wait, are you saying you still have hope that moderates can be turned around? Lately I've been assuming that the most domesticated of humans would have to die out before anything gets done.
I've seen ex-moderates become communists, but also Q-people and open fascists and weird religious new agey types. So it's a toss up, really.
Never did like Gatcha game mechanics. Than again, I know that moderates with unexplored bigotry can break left because that describes ME. The SaniFlush of barely four or five years ago would be another statistic in a conflict like this.
What can we do to put our thumb on the scale? We have a better world to build and I want as many people enjoying it with me as possible.
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