I've always considered the American Revolution a textbook example of a bougie revolution, in that a fuedal aristocrat's rule was overthrown by landowning capitalists not of the old fuedal nobility. IIRC Marx said something similar about it.

But last night a friend challenged that idea by pointing out that the fuedal base of society was de facto maintained via slavery, even if de jure there was no longer a king. In their interpretation, the war for independence wasn't actually a revolution, as the old divisions of nobility/serfs were maintained and simply rebranded along racial lines of white/Black, with indigenous peoples being considered almost completely outside the polity, similar to how many Jewish and Roma communities were regarded in Europe.

Thoughts?

Also wasn't sure if this went in history or askchapo

    • CrimsonSage [any]
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      3 years ago

      Yeah slavery and feudalism are not the same. Though some forms of feudalism can approach slavery in character it is a fundamentally different relationship.

        • Bluegrass_Buddhist [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          Is there a reason you're being so unecessarily hostile toward a good friend of mine, who you've never met, who is absolutely a comrade, and whose only sin you're aware of is offering a good faith, if perhaps flawed, critique of a historical analysis?

            • Bluegrass_Buddhist [none/use name]
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              3 years ago

              On this site? Said unironically? And as a blanket judgment of character instead of a critique of their premise? Yeah dude, it's a shitty thing to call someone you know absolutely nothing about.

                • Bluegrass_Buddhist [none/use name]
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                  3 years ago

                  calm down bro, you're just over-reacting bro, it's no big deal bro, you're taking insults at your loved ones way too seriously bro, actually I'm not insulting anyone I just want to help your friend grow, bro.

                  :very-intelligent: