Not the first time i have observed this as well as transphobia being used as a cudgel on anti america twitter. Sucks tbh when america basically invented violent homophobia in its modern incarnation

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    Pretty standard stupidpol fare. The global working class is too reactionary so therefore we shouldn’t bother giving marginalized people any rights. It’s real asinine shit

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      The best part is you could use this exact garbage to speak out against feminism as 99% of culture in the world was/is patriachal in varying degree, yet of course stupidpol cucks would not dare to speak out against it because ALL the cool socialists supports women's liberation

      "The entire party and country should hurl into the fire and break the neck of anyone who dared trample underfoot the sacred edict of the party on the defense of women's rights." - :hoxha-turt:

    • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      But but but we'll alienate people I had no intention or plan on talking to anyway

    • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      This is or was the party line of the KKE a while ago (Greek Communist Party). I remember being disappointed.

  • kristina [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    me watching footage of a cool gay bar in xinjiang :squirtle-jam:

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        fr this exists. dont remember the channel but they have police that protect the place from ETIM people. apparently havent had an incident in 5 years as of 2020

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        some dude toured xinjiang nightlife at some point. a lot of the bars in general got attacked cause they served alcohol but the lgbt friendly ones got attacked the most. it all died down after the attackers got a life i guess

        kind of taboo to talk about it apparently but he got someone to talk about it after he got drunk with them lol

  • DragonNest_Aidit [they/them,use name]
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    Sucks tbh when america basically invented violent homophobia in its modern incarnation

    Reminds me on how Asian conservatives acts like marijuana is the devil's lettuce and the worst thing ever, even thought it was the ban was introduced by colonial powers, and before that the plant was native here where it was used as medicine and foodstuff for millennia.

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      3 years ago

      hopefully as more research is published china will loosen controls on it

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        once the threat of capitalist encirclement recedes, I think there will be some cultural movement. but probably real slow until then

        • kristina [she/her]
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          yeah dont really blame them for being gungho on drugs considering they had an entire century of getting fucked by the west via them

          • NomadicWarMachine [any]
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            3 years ago

            Stability and prosperity are the best things for making cultures more accepting of queer people, and really anyone who lives counter to social norms. It’s a trend that’s pretty easily observed throughout history. So yeah the rich stable global north countries have a better track record with gay rights than the exploited destabilized global south. The handful of AES states have have managed to stabilize and prosper did begin to improve on that front, slower than they should have but they did improve. It’s nothing “unique” to American culture, it’s just that having a comfy life with lots of treats makes you less likely to give a fuck if your neighbor is gay or trans.

      • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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        America is fairly abysmal when it comes to material protections for LGBT people. Having no public health care becomes a serious problem when you're trans and want to medically transition, or when it comes to issues like HIV prevention and treatment that disproportionately affect gay men, or when we're talking about reproductive medicine for gay and lesbian parents. America has an absurdly large religious right, getting kicked out of your parents' house for being LGBT is so much more likely in the US than anywhere else in the West and finding shelter in that incredibly precarious situation is a lot harder with America's nonexisting social safety nets. LGBT people are at greater odds to be economically marginalized and overexploited and living in the US makes that a lot more severe. The same goes for mental health issues, which are more likely to be a problem that ails you when you have a lifetime of trauma and hostility to look back on like many LGBT from rural communities do. America just isn't a country where you want to find yourself in a rough place, and marginalized groups unfortunately find themselves in such places a lot more often.

        So i'd argue that while America was ahead of many EU countries on gay marriage, and while it may be a great place to live for rich and affluent LGBT people, the idea of trading places with any of my trans comrades in the US sounds utterly terrifying. This is why it's crucially important to view such issues, in fact any "social justice" issues, through an intersectional lens that does not only consider if we offer ideological support and vocal acceptance to marginalized people, but take a thorough look at how to meet their material needs. American LGBT people can rightfully be proud of what the vocal, militant part of their LGBT community achieved historically, but these achievements have taken place within America's ultra-capitalist social framework and that framework always severely limits any advances that are made on civil rights. The same goes for women's rights and its economic aspects like public child care, paid maternal leave etc.; or for racial equality and the economic aftereffects of slavery, redlining and Jim Crow that are still felt today; it goes for ableism more than for anything else i've just mentioned, for reasons that should have become clear by now.

        This is why such issues always, without exception, have to be viewed through a materialist lens. And that's something American liberals are awfully, awfully bad at. This should never be forgotten, no matter how indeed outstanding American liberals are at performatively speaking out for the plight of the marginalized. Sometimes, we just need more than warm words of solidarity. In fact, that's when support matters the most.

  • amber2 [she/her,they/them]
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    3 years ago

    Basically "how can I explain homosexuality to my children?" except if Tibetans find out about gay people they will start mass killings

    "The worst form of bloodbath in human history" is a high bar to set, given all the other ones that happened

    • berrytopylus [she/her,they/them]
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      Nationalism seems to have this in general honestly. Whether right wing or left wing, they're of the belief that queer people in their country are from the US and not just that LGBT people exist naturally.

      Russia France Germany Japan Spain, the bigots almost everywhere claim this absurd idea because they don't see our existence as just a natural thing.

  • JoesFrackinJack [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    This is actually horseshoe theory shit lmao. The way they have such distain for non-straight people trying to exist or just not have to hide from the public is palpable.

    I swear these people think seeing a person flying a rainbow flag or whatever is cultural "genocide"

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  • PrettyEll122 [she/her, they/them]
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    3 years ago

    This person has a lot of red flags. It always sucks when you follow someone, and then they turn out to be a total shithead promoting the most fucked up ideas.

    • FidelCashflow [he/him]
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      The black yellow alliance is more real than the red brown ever was it turns out. 'Cause maybe I am all internet poisioned but I have been thinking about the red/brown thing alot. I dunno if at the start of ww2 you could honestly say germany was worse than Britain. By the end? Germany did blow up alot of nonces and maybe that redeems them somewhat. Is this too hot a take? That USSR the only major player in ww2 to not be doing a genocide could fairly pick and choose alliances.

  • VeganVelveeta [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    It’s a very irritating tendency that pops up sometimes in supposedly “Marxist” circles. Lots of “muh bourgeoisie decadence idpol liberalism” gurgling.

    • SaniFlush [any, any]
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      3 years ago

      Russia tends toward being super homophobic, though that might be due to most of the Russians I speak to being...

      gamers...