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How to effectively counter imperialist lies on Xinjiang on the internet: A Guide - Lemmygrad
lemmygrad.mlu/HappiCow69 - originally from r/GenZhou
Hello comrades! As Amerikkka and global capitalism continue their backslide
into inevitable self-destruction, the ruling classes of Western nations have
sowed the seeds of a Second Cold War in a desperate attempt to keep their
imperialist hegemony afloat against the rising tide of Chinese power. As Western
leaders continue to escalate their rhetoric and actions, we have seen and will
continue to see more frequent and more egregious allegations against China and
other AES nations. The one that is getting the most attention now is the
fabricated narrative around a supposed “genocide” occurring in China’s Xinjiang
region. Instead of another debunk post, of which there are a plethora of
excellent ones on the internet’s commie-sphere (I have linked the most helpful
and comprehensive ones here
[https://docs.google.com/document/d/1d0lynghlCnR6Hs57pypEEhlhHczFVgaYX-TIZD61s_w/edit],
here [https://twitter.com/RodericDay/status/1287411708374454273], here
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Sino/comments/hzphui/every_uyghur_allegation_debunked_as_of_2020_july/],
here
[https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/i2c4ch/adrian_zenz_a_well_known_publisher_of_articles_on/],
here
[https://thegrayzone.com/2018/08/23/un-did-not-report-china-internment-camps-uighur-muslims/],
here [https://twitter.com/CaoYi_MFA/status/1362037901656264706] here
[https://www.qiaocollective.com/en/education/xinjiang], and here
[https://www.docdroid.net/lcLX83A/copy-of-resource-compilation-debunking-imperialist-propaganda-wrt-in-xinjiang-china-uighur-mass-pdf],
) this post will be an instructional guide on how best to disseminate in this
information and combat false Western narratives on the increasingly common
Reddit threads pertaining to the matter, or in another space on the internet. At
the expense of sounding too LARP-y, the internet is an important battleground of
information as the Western media machine steps up their consent manufacturing
during this New Cold War, and with a lack of real media presence, Marxists
should be using such a widely-accessed medium to counter the narratives people
are bombarded with every day. Changing so much as one person’s mind is an
important step, as they become one more likely anti-war activist and media
skeptic. This all comes from my, I will admit, extensive (but what the fuck else
could anyone do during early lockdown?), experience in comment sections debating
the Xinjiang accusations, and talking to people who’s minds have been changed on
the matter. The aim of the list below is to provide a comprehensive guide on how
to most effectively debunk accusations against China in Xinjiang in internet
comment sections, mainly on Reddit. I’d also like to preface this with the
disclaimer that the aim of this advice, and any comments made on the kinds of
posts mentioned, should not be to turn the people commenting on the thread (or
lurkers) into Marxists-Leninists. It should simply be to convince them of the
invalidity of the subject at hand, and get them to see past the U$ Empire’s
lies. Any anti-New Cold War activist is a valuable asset in the fight against
misinformation. 1. Sow skepticism; avoid taking an explicitly pro-China
stance and do not reveal your ideological leaning. ------- This one is going to
be controversial, so I will clarify. Most average Reddit shitlibs will
immediately write you off with their incredible powers of cognitive dissonance
(they’re a Chinese bot, or a Wumao, etc) if you dive into the deep end and take
an explicitly pro-China stance. Instead, focus on pointing out the discrepancies
in the article/report within itself, or within other ‘verified accounts’ of
supposedly genocidal action in Xinjiang. A comment pointing out that a report is
authored by Adrian Zenz, and then a short paragraph about his history and views,
is far more effective at sowing the seed of doubt in someone’s mind than a
blatant, combative paragraph about how the whole report is wrong and here’s an
explicitly communists essay on why. It is scientifically proven that when people
arrive at a conclusion themselves (or believe they do) they hold that belief
more strongly and are more likely to accept it. Our job should be to plant the
seed in the reader’s mind that something is very wrong with the information they
are being spoonfed by the media, and allow them to arrive at the conclusion they
are being lied to on their own. For example, instead of commenting >“This
report from [Generic billionaire owned think tank] is totally wrong because X,
here’s a Global Times or CGTN article debunking it” A more effective comment at
reaching non-Marxists would be >“Hm, isn’t it odd that this report is from a
think tank connected directly to US intelligence agencies and receives most of
its funding from weapons contractors? And that it’s main author is the
widely-debunked ‘academic’ Adrian Zenz, known for his anti-Semitic and
Sinophobic views with a history of calculations errors and shoddy reporting when
it comes to China?” Again, these are just examples, but the idea is there. The
average Redditor will give more credence to a commenter they see as a
well-meaning and unbiased skeptic than a raging communist spreading
‘propaganda’. Which brings us to our next point. 2. Your goal should be to
change the mind of the lurker, not OP or the people who will reply to your
comment to try and debate you. Keep it civil and avoid shit-fligning or
name-calling. ------- When commenting, type as if you are addressing a lurker,
not OP or other commenters. Lurkers will be most swayed by any evidence, and are
the least likely to be down the ideological rabbit hole of liberalism. They
likely do not have the prior knowledge to chime in, and therefore are also the
least likely to be pre-programmed with the same bullshit anti-communist talking
points that others will throw at you. OP, and anyone who replies to your
comment, will not be interested in a good faith discussion. They will likely
resort to accusations that you’re a bot, or biased, and become combative or
defensive when their views are challenged. Make sure you maintain civility to
make the other commenter look like an idiot. For this reason, including
sources is also vital too. I will go more in depth into this point on #3, but
sources are key to changing the minds of lurkers. When faced with something that
challenges an existing narrative, the natural reflex is to look it up on a
search engine, which will likely only funnel them back to large Western media
outlets. For large or important claims, always provide a source so they are more
likely to look at yours than any garbage Google spits up at them. 3. Use
sources, but avoid Chinese-government funded outlets and reports. Use Western
media’s own contradictions against it. ------- Like I stated in point 1, it is
important for the reader to believe that you are simply a neutral, well-meaning
skeptic and not an unpaid volunteer agent of the Chinese Communist Party
(obvious /s). For this reason, it is imperative that you use sources that are
familiar to Western readers; exposing the lies of sources they trust will
further plant the seeds of doubt in their mind. While CPC-funded outlets like
Global Times and CGTN do great work, as to anti-imperialist outlets like The
GrayZone, the average Redditor will be turned off by sources they see as biased
or sketchy. Instead, use the contradictions of Western media outlets in your
favor: linking two articles from one Western outlet (The Guardian, NYT, WaPo,
etc) that contradict each other will do far more to further a person’s
skepticism of the existing narrative on Xinjiang than an article from Chinese
media will. There are plenty of examples of this occurring. For example, this
article
[https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/statement/2019/11/11/world-bank-statement-on-review-of-project-in-xinjiang-china]
from the World Bank stating that allegations of “genocide” in Xinjiang are
unsubstantiated is sure to fry a few Western brains. So will this article
[https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/02/19/china-uighurs-genocide-us-pompeo-blinken/]
from Foreign Policy on the fact that even the US State Department doesn’t have
enough evidence to call China’s counter-terrorism program a “genocide”. Bringing
up the contradictions and lies of often Western-paid defectors is also good; the
‘but muh defectors’ point is always the one reactionaries will lob at you when
they have no ammo left. Here are some good ones exposing the lies/changed
stories of Sayragul Sautbay
[https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/12/uighurs-forced-to-eat-pork-horror-stories-told-by-chinese-defector-seem-to-evolve.html],
and both stories [https://twitter.com/abovetheclouds/status/1359257249487740929]
from Tursunay Ziyawudun
[https://old.reddit.com/r/Sino/comments/lc1tpv/tursunay_ziyawudun_february_2020_i_wasnt_beaten/],
two of the most prominent defectors. Don’t feel limited by the examples I
linked above; any examples of contradiction within Western media and think
tank’s reporting will work, especially if it pertains specifically to the report
or article in question. Finally, make sure to fucking flood these posts. Do
not brigade them, but as you see them on r/all, make sure to chime in even just
a little bit. A lot of comments pointing out an article’s contradictions or lies
will really hammer home the point to readers. While these tips are tailored
specifically to tackling the lie of the Uyghur “genocide”, they can be more
broadly applied to counter pretty much any Western narrative. And with that,
you’ve finished your first step in becoming a CPC Propagandist! Congrats
comrade, your Xi Bucks should be arriving in the mail within 6 to 9 business
days.
How to effectively counter imperialist lies on Xinjiang on the internet: A Guide
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