Being told this is fairly reliable for info on the situation in Ukraine. let me know if it isn’t. https://liveuamap.com/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine#/media/File:2022_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine.svg
Being told this is fairly reliable for info on the situation in Ukraine. let me know if it isn’t. https://liveuamap.com/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine#/media/File:2022_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine.svg
See thats bad. I get it. But the in abstract doing an afganistan in europe sounds like the kind of thing future revionist historians will call "good actually" does europe deserve a destabilized war zone draining them of long held colonial wealth? Yes. It is still bad but is frustratingly the best we have seen in a long time.
this line of thinking can be used to justify almost anything. COVID? great! it's killing loads of people and destroying the economies of Imperial nations!
it's mad. having a big old war is unequivocally bad. this is going to ruin the lives of millions of people and make life appreciably worse for hundreds of millions.
Sometimes in my life I have to put myself in a worse position now to get ahead in the future. This becomes ethically complex when many many lives are impacted
I have absolutely no time for this line of thought being applied to an ongoing war where there is no likelihood of a positive outcome.
it's deeply strange.
none of us can sit at the end of time and decide whether the history we're living through was 'for the best'.
I am not saying it is justified. Clearly nothing I say is going to change the outcome. There just feels like there is stuff going on here people aren't talking about and I am trying to understand it all.
Kind of like the way that Genghis Khan is now kinda seen as a figure who burned away all the old forests of previous empires that were strangling attempts to move forward and let new sprouts grow? The thing is, of course, that it's one thing to say that with the historical distance we have. It's quite another to try to suggest to the millions of people his armies killed in any way "deserved" to die or that it's a good thing in the long term that your entire family line is being obliterated.
Either way, it's impossible to know whether in a thousand years, this will be seen as some kind of turning point and the historians of that time will be saying "Well, it's a shame that so many had to suffer and die but here we are, under global communism! Using these materialist analysis techniques and advanced simulations, we have determined that these events were necessary for us to be here, so they're justified!" or whether this is an event entirely tangential, or even detrimental, to whether humanity as a species advances towards liberation from capitalism.
Therefore, I can only conclude that this war will result in the suffering of millions in the present day given Europe's current sanctions and so there's no reason to suggest that this is, in any way, a good thing. Maybe it's a good thing for certain actors, but those represent an utterly minuscule portion of the population. It's easier to be like "Wow, look at these events and how they'll affect and destabilise the imperial ambitions of US, NATO, and Russia!" if you aren't in Ukraine or eastern Europe right now, trying to get away on trains, or having your husbands, brothers, and male children ripped away from you as you try and escape. For them, they're thinking "Oh my god, how the fuck am I going to feed my family? What happened to my cousins? When will I get to return home?"