some pretty choice quotes in here

“The U.S. is in no position to tell China off,” she said. Then she mentioned the three journalists who were killed in NATO’s bombing of the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade in 1999, a tragic incident that prompted widespread anti-U.S. protests in China.

“NATO still owes the Chinese people a debt of blood,” she said. You sent

"Recent speeches by some of China’s most influential advisers to the government on international relations suggest that the miscalculation may have been based on deep distrust of the United States. They saw it as a declining power that wanted to push for war with false intelligence because it would benefit the United States, financially and strategically."

also mentions 'little pinks' which I guess is the Chinese equivalent to 'tankies' more or less?

  • summerbl1nd [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    little pinks are nationalists, not tankies

    in terms of demographics probably closest to being a lib/chud equivalent

    the pinks honestly have more palatable and realistic takes on anti imperialism and the western world order than a lot of chinese leftists; the leftists tend to have to struggle more with brainworms inflicted by the western stranglehold on propaganda through mass media and academia, while the pinks tend to be poorer and less educated, which ironically insulates them from the brainworms

    edit, re the leftist brainworms: my personal gripe is with what effectively are cults of personality surrounding the bodies of work of dead French pedophiles who developed their ideas in a completely different social context and yet these works are somehow venerated as gospel despite essentially only having been translated and not actually interpreted; it all reeks of platonism and i don’t like it

    • culpritus [any]
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      3 years ago

      interesting, curious to see more examples of the divergence of the pinks compared to the more mainstream leftists in China

      seems like you're saying the internationalism of the standard leftists makes them more susceptible to western propaganda compared to the more 'provincial' pinks

      just find it difficult to conceptualize these political dynamics as it seems so different from the inch-deep discourse in mainstream US politics of red v blue