It just feels difficult to have meaningful conversations on here sometimes. Like yes I dislike America, but I don't need to act like nothing good has ever come out of it. Maybe China is better than America, but I don't want Xi nuking American cities. I don't think war is suddenly cool and good because Ukraine has some nazis in it. Not everyone I disagree with is some bumbling mass of idiocy, a lot of times we just differ on certain core values.

  • Mardoniush [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    No one here actually wants Xi to nuke America...even if we might want the United States to not be a thing.

    Similarly, aside from one or two, no one here supports Russia. We might acknowledge that the invasion was materially caused by NATO, and would eventually have happened even if Russia was under a liberal leader. We might weep for the children of the Donbass that have spent 8 years being shelled. We might condemn the fact the NATO sanctions will condemn tens of thousands to die in what will be a very harsh winter next year.

    But nothing changes the fact that Putin and his National Bourgeoisie are killing the Ukrainian working class and impoverishing the Russian Working Class, and those are always the people we stand with. No war but class war, ever.

    One thing to remember is that we all have axes of one kind or another to grind, and so there will always be one fucking edgelord in every struggle session. I know I've been it occasionally. But I also know I've come back and posted the next day knowing the people on this site I've disagreed with are comrades.

    And that's kind of the strength of the Left. The ability to say "Fuck you and your opinions, I'll see you tomorrow."

    • AOCapitulator [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      If theres going to be a cataclysm, I'd prefer it be america being nuked out of existance than 200 more years of destroying and consuming the planet until theres nothing left,

      But uh, I'd much rather do a revolution haha