It just feels difficult to have meaningful conversations on here sometimes. Like yes I dislike America, but I don't need to act like nothing good has ever come out of it. Maybe China is better than America, but I don't want Xi nuking American cities. I don't think war is suddenly cool and good because Ukraine has some nazis in it. Not everyone I disagree with is some bumbling mass of idiocy, a lot of times we just differ on certain core values.

  • crime [she/her, any]
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    3 years ago

    This is about the only place on the internet where sincere posting is well received and matched with more sincere posting.

    I think most of the takes you view as "edgy" are only edgy in the context of the mainstream American Overton window. I think anything good that has come from america has done so in spite of america and not because of it, and I don't think that any of it is worth the horrors america has inflicted on the world at any point since its conception. Other than some cultural creations (primarily those created by the most oppressed groups in America) I do not believe that anything about America as in institution is worth preserving.

    This is one of the few places on the internet where meaningful conversations can be had — you'll be hard pressed to find anyone who analyzes events via a materialist framework, who knows and understands history, and who doesn't uncritically regurgitate imperialist propaganda while having those discussions. I don't think people I can't have meaningful conversations with are idiots, i think they have been heavily propagandized for the entire lives and I can't fully deprogram them of it in a single conversation, and we cannot have any discussions that are meaningful to both of us until they've caught up to me.

    I think the world is incredibly fucked right now and that it's nice to have some things to cheer for, especially when the greater context is fucked up and bleak. I will always cheer when nazis get killed and I won't apologize for that. I also think the US speedrunnung dismantling western hegemony with its pathetic attempts to sanction Russia is good, and that the US realizing they did an oopsie since they made Russia cut off some of its gas exports and has started lifting sanctions on Venezuela is good. I think NATO getting owned is good. You'll find that that's about the extent that people here are rooting for Russia. Much less unhinged than your average American lib has been while rooting for the Ukraine.

    • Prole_Strongman [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      I don’t think people I can’t have meaningful conversations with are idiots, i think they have been heavily propagandized for the entire lives and I can’t fully deprogram them of it in a single conversation…

      Key take away here