(I want to make it clear, I'm not shaming anyone for anything, this is just something that is odd to me personally)

My whole life I've always had fictional stories I've thought up, and I always believed that every person had a story they wanted to share, and if not a story, some other form of art (ideas for paintings/drawings, comics, sculptures, woodworked stuff, etc.). Talking to my brother, I found he had literally zero thoughts on any form of art or story, instead the thing he's most passionate about is the ability to make money and get rich one day, which is so strange to me. I had honestly believed up until that point that everyone had something, but my brother has zero thoughts or inclinations towards such. I'm accepting now that there are people who are like this, but that was honestly so jarring to me.

I wonder if perhaps my definition of 'art' should perhaps grow to include intelligent investing that leads to riches, perhaps my definition is actually outdated and excludes other forms of art.

I should say though, just because someone hasn't delivered on their choice art doesn't mean they don't have a desire for it (I haven't written any of the stories in my head for example), and I don't mean people like this (cause I'm in that category myself).

  • Diogenes_Barrel [love/loves]
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    3 years ago

    every uncultivated artistic soul is a theft by the economic and educational regime. nobody lacks an artistic spark but many wither on the vine because there's no direct profit in cultivating them.

    this is what the hippies are saying about producing bad art being a revolutionary act. rebellion against a world that tells us art has no value unless it is sold.

    • Diogenes_Barrel [love/loves]
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      3 years ago

      oh and i don't share any art personally because i am a ball of shame, sometimes the way to interact with people's art is to actively create it with them.

      :think-about-it: your bro can't avoid having art when the thing you're doing together is painting or whatever

    • Evilsandwichman [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      this is what the hippies are saying about producing bad art being a revolutionary act. rebellion against a world that tells us art has no value unless it is sold.

      Huh....this is actually kind of concerning for me. I can't point to what it was when I was growing up but I eventually had the same mindset that if I can't do something like publish a story of mine or sell it in some way that it wasn't worth the effort. I've had story ideas that I never even tried to put to paper because I didn't see myself ever selling it, it was just something to explore mentally and then drop.

      My brother has also dwelt on the concept of making or commissioning people to make video games for him but purely for the financial rewards to come out of selling them (as he'd heard so much about mobile phone games that make a lot of profits, mostly via micro-transactions).

      Frankly it really sucks that the creation of art has become so entwined, even on a mental level for some people (myself included) with its ability to turn a profit. I used to write stories when I was a kid (really crap stuff though) and honestly I can't point to when I stopped and decided it wasn't worth the effort because I couldn't see myself monetizing it.

      Art for its own sake is something I can understand on an intellectual level, but I can't feel the same motivation towards as others do and I certainly wish that wasn't the case. I keep envisioning myself writing all these stories that go unpublished or read by a scant few and I can't fathom why I would continue in the practice or where I would find the motivation, but I do certainly wish it wasn't the case as I do have stories that I don't want to pass from this world without having committed to paper.

  • meme_monster [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    We can't all be pretentious auteurs. Have you considered that your brother is ashamed and embarrassed of the thoroughly pedestrian, cape-shit porn parody script he is working on in his head?

  • Wmill [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    I've had story ideas that are basically fanfics for my favorite problematic series. Idk guess I don't share for fear of the stigma that fan works are just derivative. Some of it is changing up stuff in cannon or adding or re contextualizing things and events to max sense.

    Part of me would love making stuff like music but I feel so painfully uncreative :shatter: not to mention my skills have gone down greatly from not having proper access to the instrument I studied the most on.

    • hypercube [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      everything's derivative, baby! We're all just gestalts of what we've experienced, may as well post sonic fanfic

      • Wmill [they/them]
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        3 years ago

        Taking lib media and making it leftist shall be my goal going forward then.

    • jkfjfhkdfgdfb [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      Some of it is changing up stuff in cannon or adding or re contextualizing things and events to max sense.

      fix fics, cringe

  • Tapirs10 [undecided,she/her]
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    3 years ago

    I mean some people, myself included are just boring. Whenever I see people here talking about what they would do in a socialist utopia like be an artist or something, I don't get that same feeling. Like I don't mind being a cog in a machine of capitalism, just what the machine is doing. Maybe it's just depression vibes that I feel this way, but i just don't get creative types. It's simply not something I could find myself doing

    • TraschcanOfIdeology [they/them, comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      It's also a matter of stress and access to inspiration. We're we all to have better art education and free time, I'm sure the mind would wander and play around with ideas mcuh more than it does in this alienated hellscape

  • Ithorian [comrade/them, null/void]
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    3 years ago

    I wish I had the type of manic episodes that make you hyper creative and get shit done. Instead I just get the ones that make my constantly jittery and angry. I've barely gotten anything written since this whole bi-polar shit started a few years ago. If I gotta deal with this shit it might be worth it if I could pull a Mark Twain or Hemingway (sans suicide)

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